Tesla Is Sitting on a Record 50k Unsold EVs
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Which Japanese EV? I'm not aware of any good ones.
Korean ones? Best on the market. If you want the best for a reasonable price, Hyundai or Kia.
I like the Ionic.
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The average price of a new car is 50k.
The US car industry makes almost no actual cars since sedans and wagons don’t make much money per vehicle.
The whole fucking industry deserves to go out of business, and the laws that incentivized building trucks needs to go with it.
And here I am, still thinking anything but sedans are ugly af. SUVs are the most hideous vehicle I've ever seen. Ugly and absolutely the worst possible kind of shape.
Well 2nd worst. Trucks are worse since they tend to be taller. Plus I've never met a decent person who owns one of those tall ones. They're all just chick size competitions, smallest dick finally wins in their eyes. If you absolutely have to have a truck, get one of those Japanese types that are almost as small as a real car that actually has a bed on it.
Whoever started the trend of trucks getting bigger, taller, and fatter all while the bed is smaller than my tiny cars backseat should actually be executed. How many people are they responsible for killing?
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And here I am, still thinking anything but sedans are ugly af. SUVs are the most hideous vehicle I've ever seen. Ugly and absolutely the worst possible kind of shape.
Well 2nd worst. Trucks are worse since they tend to be taller. Plus I've never met a decent person who owns one of those tall ones. They're all just chick size competitions, smallest dick finally wins in their eyes. If you absolutely have to have a truck, get one of those Japanese types that are almost as small as a real car that actually has a bed on it.
Whoever started the trend of trucks getting bigger, taller, and fatter all while the bed is smaller than my tiny cars backseat should actually be executed. How many people are they responsible for killing?
Even sedans have gotten supersized just look a new Accord or Camry vs the older versions. The 3 series is bigger than a e39 5 series the A6 is bigger than the older A8’s.
I own a stick shift Golf Alltrack and I really don’t know what I’d replace it with if it was wrecked, there’s nothing out there at a price I’d be willing to pay that I like.
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Anecdote:
I was recently browsing an auto listing app for a used EV as I'm thinking about switching to an EV from my ICE hatchback, and the market near me is absolutely flooded with Teslas, primary model 3s. And it's not just "old" ones either. Tons of 2020-2024 models as well.
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Even sedans have gotten supersized just look a new Accord or Camry vs the older versions. The 3 series is bigger than a e39 5 series the A6 is bigger than the older A8’s.
I own a stick shift Golf Alltrack and I really don’t know what I’d replace it with if it was wrecked, there’s nothing out there at a price I’d be willing to pay that I like.
My last car was a Camry, and it was huge compared to what I remember them as (my mom has an 80s one when I was a kid). I've downsized to a Corolla (after I destroyed the Camry whoopsie) now tho.
And I have no idea what those alphabet/number soup cars even are. If they can't get a real name thae they can go extinct. I'm not learning what an e45 is, or a ZQ73 is.
But yeah they have gotten more unwieldy, and that shit needs to stop.
But what I meant to say got lost in my other point, which was my opinion that even given the most safe shape and sizes possible, I think everything but sedans are ugly, just aesthetically speaking. I understand the practical reasons, but they're all ugly.
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I have a European car rant too, I did live in Germany for 20 years
II absolutely love that multilingual in the language of rant. You deserve more ups than I can give.
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Elon couldn't pay me to buy a Tesla. I like EVs. It's not about the technology. It's entirely about Elon. I'd rather buy Japanese or South Korean, thank you.
depends on the definition of paying. is he giving you discount, or is he paying more than the car's worth?
if it is the latter, then i am fine keeping all the fucker's money and set the free teslas on fire.
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Anecdote:
I was recently browsing an auto listing app for a used EV as I'm thinking about switching to an EV from my ICE hatchback, and the market near me is absolutely flooded with Teslas, primary model 3s. And it's not just "old" ones either. Tons of 2020-2024 models as well.
there are people in the world who buy new car because their 2 year old one is already too old.
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Does anyone have a good basic tip on how to buy one at a discount?
Theft. Dealerships hate this one weird trick!
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They’ve been discontinued is the important part, anything decent gets discontinued.
It seems Toyota is about the only car company building anything interesting. Akio Toyoda is this generations Bob Lutz or Ferdinand Piëch
Toyota is betting on hydrogen instead of electric for some stupid fucking reason.
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Toyota is betting on hydrogen instead of electric for some stupid fucking reason.
Electric works fine in industrialized suburban blahsville but it doesn’t work well outside of it. Toyota dominates in the non industrial nations so it needs to remain flexible, I wish more auto companies would do blue sky type research
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Anecdote:
I was recently browsing an auto listing app for a used EV as I'm thinking about switching to an EV from my ICE hatchback, and the market near me is absolutely flooded with Teslas, primary model 3s. And it's not just "old" ones either. Tons of 2020-2024 models as well.
You couldn't pay me to drive one.
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I like the Ionic.
Best case under $50k for sure
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At this point i no longer care if they lower the price until they're free. They will have to sell them as scrap at a loss. I will never, ever, ever buy a Tesla.
I will drive a free tesla
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How did that happen? When I worked at the Fremont plant, we were only putting together vehicles that had already been sold. Did they swap from lean manufacturing to the normal, wasteful "just keep making shit perpetually" model?
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Elon couldn't pay me to buy a Tesla. I like EVs. It's not about the technology. It's entirely about Elon. I'd rather buy Japanese or South Korean, thank you.
I'd rather buy a Chinese one, but mr Biden made that impossible.
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You got to be a special kind of asshole if you’re buying a Tesla these days.
Their Q1 sales were actually up over last year. It's insane.
The same kind of pieces of shit that still use Twitter.
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If the price drops enough I would get one. I would hate to give money to musk, but it is not a bad car (based on the 2 people I know who have owned them for years).
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I would rather walk than buy a tesla
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Anecdote:
I was recently browsing an auto listing app for a used EV as I'm thinking about switching to an EV from my ICE hatchback, and the market near me is absolutely flooded with Teslas, primary model 3s. And it's not just "old" ones either. Tons of 2020-2024 models as well.
Used Teslas cost chump change in my country, especially older Model S which is the more luxurious model. Morally, I could justify buying a used one. I still hate the things though. And while I don't care too much about my image, a nazi sympathiser is not something I want to look like.
I'm considering a Jaguar I-Pace or MB EQC instead. But if I can get a REALLY good deal on a used Tesla, I might consider pulling the trigger just because 2 euros per liter of diesel makes me spend twice what my payment on the Tesla would be and I could charge it at home.
Though I do love my current torsen-based Quattro so I'd ideally want an AWD car meaning the ones that fit the bill are about as much as the I-Pace. Which begs the question of which one is actually nicer to drive. Guess I'll have to test drive them both.
