i think society would be better if they just handed out money to people no questions asked, but i suppose it's true some people might use it to be happy
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I'll happily spend 40 hours a week doing science. What really grinds my gears is all the bureaucracy BS hustling for grant money.
Just give me a lab and a yearly total budget of ~250000€ for buying stuff, paying contractors and paying my salary from, and allow me to carry any leftover into the next fiscal year. I'll churn out royalty free medical imaging tech.
@datenwolf@chaos.social @dalias@hachyderm.io @aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place This is a big reason I left academia after my phd. Waiting weeks to months for approval to spend few hundred euros for the stuff needed for an experiment was mentally exhausting. -
@aeva i would be better at working if i had never been ground beneath the threat of poverty
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they literally can't run out of money they're the government they can just make more of it "but what about inflation" buddy we literally cannot run out of numbers
@aeva Tye threat of poverty and early death hasn’t eliminated those things under capitalism (it’s made it worse), so, yes, write a check and drain the accounts of every billionaire. Every. Single. One.
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I'll happily spend 40 hours a week doing science. What really grinds my gears is all the bureaucracy BS hustling for grant money.
Just give me a lab and a yearly total budget of ~250000€ for buying stuff, paying contractors and paying my salary from, and allow me to carry any leftover into the next fiscal year. I'll churn out royalty free medical imaging tech.
@datenwolf @dalias @aeva It was ever thus. A typical three year academic contract consisted of (and still does for all I know)
* one year scrabbling around to get the grants to buy the necessary kit
* one year doing actual work
* one year applying for the next three year job.
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@datenwolf @dalias @aeva It was ever thus. A typical three year academic contract consisted of (and still does for all I know)
* one year scrabbling around to get the grants to buy the necessary kit
* one year doing actual work
* one year applying for the next three year job.
@TimWardCam @datenwolf @aeva You're literally better off ditching the institution and running a YouTube channel on your research to fund it.

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@TimWardCam @datenwolf @aeva You're literally better off ditching the institution and running a YouTube channel on your research to fund it.

@dalias @datenwolf @aeva Nobody in the system (other than the victims) seems to ask "couldn't we try to do a bit better than a 33% efficiency rate?"
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i think society would be better if they just handed out money to people no questions asked, but i suppose it's true some people might use it to be happy
There's a,whole cadre of old politicians who spend every night lying in bed angry that someone is having more fun than they are. And determined to stop it.
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i think society would be better if they just handed out money to people no questions asked, but i suppose it's true some people might use it to be happy
@aeva this world needs a big reset button
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@datenwolf @aeva This. Even if you have a rate of 10% or even 50% cranks, this system would turn out more and better prosocial technology than capitalism ever could.
@dalias @datenwolf @aeva We'd be better off if most people did no work except cleaning up after themselves.
How much work does your pet cat do? Yet they bring joy to your life.
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@dalias @datenwolf @aeva We'd be better off if most people did no work except cleaning up after themselves.
How much work does your pet cat do? Yet they bring joy to your life.
@foolishowl @dalias @datenwolf @aeva A long time ago, I was out with my pet lizard - he likes to wander around in the local park in the summer. We often get approached by kids (for obvious reasons; he *is* a rather unusual pet), and this time a small boy and an even smaller girl come over to check him out.
So after all the usual questions (what does he eat? does he bite? how old is he?), the boy asks what I have him for. I'm completely baffled by the question ... but I don't really have time to answer before his little sister points out that *obviously* his job is just to be cute.
And, yeah, I think that's the job most domestic cats do too.

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@datenwolf@chaos.social @dalias@hachyderm.io @aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place This is a big reason I left academia after my phd. Waiting weeks to months for approval to spend few hundred euros for the stuff needed for an experiment was mentally exhausting.
@bovaz @aeva @dalias @datenwolf Industry can be better, but I once had to get three competitive quotes from approved vendors (and no, purchasing wouldn’t tell me who the approved vendors were, since that’s the kind of question an unapproved vendor would ask!) and follow up repeatedly for about six months before I could get approval to buy a $20 thumb drive to reimage a failed server.
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@aeva Some people will use it to get way TOO happy
@CubeRootOfTrue @aeva I am that some people
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@aeva That's the opposite direction in respect to the invention of money itself.
Existence of money is the key to divide people between richness and poverty. If you let anyone live a decent life, regardless of money, then money looses its meaning. -
"but how will we force people to work without the threat of poverty" buddy it's not like I'm gonna stop making video games
@aeva yea actually if i could move out without the looming threat of homelessness id probably make more art and if i could afford to enjoy other ppl's works id be even happier and they'd be happier too because someone enjoyed their art!! its crazy how having money no questions asked makes the world a way better place its almost like we almost definitely have the resources and capabilities to create a utopia but just dont because "no free lunches" or whatever -
@foolishowl @dalias @datenwolf @aeva A long time ago, I was out with my pet lizard - he likes to wander around in the local park in the summer. We often get approached by kids (for obvious reasons; he *is* a rather unusual pet), and this time a small boy and an even smaller girl come over to check him out.
So after all the usual questions (what does he eat? does he bite? how old is he?), the boy asks what I have him for. I'm completely baffled by the question ... but I don't really have time to answer before his little sister points out that *obviously* his job is just to be cute.
And, yeah, I think that's the job most domestic cats do too.

@foolishowl @dalias @datenwolf @aeva
Footnote I: A question that I very often get asked by people who haven't met said lizard, but *never* by people who meet us in person, is how I restrain a lizard. The answer is I don't; he stays near me on his own, and also I can walk faster than he can run.
See the picture.Footnote II: Sometimes, kids will start asking their parents if they can have a blue-tongue skink too, because he's so good at that one job he has! If the usual questions haven't been asked at this point, the parents will do that ... and, without fail, refuse when they get the answer to "how old is he?". (He's 18.)

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@CubeRootOfTrue @aeva I am that some people
@edendestroyer @CubeRootOfTrue and honestly i love that for you and everyone else
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@Robotistry @raven @mym I'm not too worried about it. There will be a steady supply of pickup artists so long as there's sweet toy grabage trucks, just like in real life. Likewise, the people who work for the water reclamation department in Chicago already have batmanesque origin stories motivating them so I doubt that would stop. I'm sure the medical records thing certainly couldn't get any worse at least.
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@Robotistry @raven @mym I'm not too worried about it. There will be a steady supply of pickup artists so long as there's sweet toy grabage trucks, just like in real life. Likewise, the people who work for the water reclamation department in Chicago already have batmanesque origin stories motivating them so I doubt that would stop. I'm sure the medical records thing certainly couldn't get any worse at least.
@Robotistry @raven @mym also most big projects in this country that actually benefit the people seem to happen outside the framework of crapitalism anyway
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@aeva i place her as one of the main reasons why we have this stupid "government debt = household debt" nonsense, especially on this wet rock of dissapointment and depression...
@technicalotter yeah i don't see how you are drawing the connection here from my 4 am posts proposing that we effectively end the concept of money for the benefit of the people