@aeva

Honestly, I think it would cost society less if certain people didn't work. Aside from people who currently work in normal jobs but don't do anything to a high enough standard as to avoid someone redoing their work... There are entire industries where I would like to pay everyone to retire permanently.

@dalias @datenwolf @aeva

Likewise, I'll make you a diagnostic test or biomarker assay for anything you want, just gimme a lab and a budget and let me work.

Isn't this the dream for most scientists?

I've cleaned streets for zero money. Because idk I wanted to live in an area with clean streets I guess

And honestly if i could trade tech work for cleaning streets and still afford the cost of living then I would probably make that trade. I just don't know how to get a living wage cleaning streets (and jump through the hoops that is getting employment anywhere in this economy)

so are you imagining the parties and MPs we vote for will magically fix the system? ...theoretically possible of course, but you seem to see a path towards that, which i find extremely surprising to say the least. i'm not against it, but i just think that is impossible. The K-shaped economy will just continue and we waste precious time imho

‍️ he sovereign is us the people.
we can make and change structures to work towards whats best for us the people.

"control of financing"m is politics". sounds abstract and is that how epstein billionaires became rich? is that the rising right in europe? is that trump? ... bitcoin is politics too and a very specific policy.

I dont see that politics is in charge of anything other than storytelling, but you seem to see it differently.

Control of financing is politics. And I know you want to believe that bitcoin solves this problem, but the evidence on the ground points exactly the opposite direction.

I now know substantially interesting bits of history plus have a little more reading about money systems (Knapp is very badly represented for instance. He never said money was only the product of a state).

There is no substitute for the egalitarian ethic expressed as egalitarian power distribution.

i am all for mutual aid networks, worker coops, etc... to build an open source economy and open source supply chain and organize bottom up to create a living alternative to epstein cqpitalist class oligarchy controlled mega corporations.

BUT, its not that ppl havent tried worker coops, etc... in the past. This will only work if we ALSO in parallel turn off their biggest class privilege which is money printing, otherwise they will use it to undermine alternatives ‍️

[meanwhile in the bizarre parallel universe where american libraries are for-profit institutions and Ben Franklin established a tradition of voluntary sanitation jobs instead] my fellow armchair philosophers, concerned: but who will organize books without the threat of poverty to motivate them?

It's about the amount of grant hustling I've to do. And I think that there genuinely are people who enjoy cleaning streets.

And for that matter, a lot of years ago I visited an open house event of the Munich municipal waste water management, and I actually thought that it was a pretty interesting workplace.

When have I ever suggested that big politics was a solution? You and I agree on similar goals, but I look at money is completely different animal from the way you think about it.

For me, the fundamentals were coming the way you're thinking is that controlling the amount of money is the same as limiting oligarchy. Oligarchy is about politics, not commodities. Commodities are the medium.