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OpenAI is being sued for the unlicensed practice of law.

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    OpenAI is being sued for the unlicensed practice of law. I'm not sure the case will stick, but it's a fascinating theory. Medical professionals should consider similar suits, IMO.
    https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/openai-sued-for-practicing-law-without-a-license

    cassandra@ottawa.placeC ketakater@social.vivaldi.netK tessarakt@mastodon.socialT be_far@social.treehouse.systemsB beandev@social.tchncs.deB 5 Replies Last reply
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    • leslieburns@esq.socialL leslieburns@esq.social

      OpenAI is being sued for the unlicensed practice of law. I'm not sure the case will stick, but it's a fascinating theory. Medical professionals should consider similar suits, IMO.
      https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/openai-sued-for-practicing-law-without-a-license

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      @LeslieBurns @Em0nM4stodon Interesting. Presumably the medical defence would be the same: “OpenAI’s usage policies state that people cannot use ChatGPT for legal or medical advice unless a licensed professional is involved.” Straddling the line between "we want people to rely on us" and “we tell people not to rely on us.”

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        @LeslieBurns @Em0nM4stodon Interesting. Presumably the medical defence would be the same: “OpenAI’s usage policies state that people cannot use ChatGPT for legal or medical advice unless a licensed professional is involved.” Straddling the line between "we want people to rely on us" and “we tell people not to rely on us.”

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        @Cassandra @Em0nM4stodon Exactly. But I have to think that some court would see past that, essentially saying "you can't have your cake and eat it, too." I think the case would have to be more direct injury that the one cited, though. Not "they used OpenAI and I got injured" but "I used OpenAI and I was injured." Maybe.

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          @Cassandra @Em0nM4stodon Exactly. But I have to think that some court would see past that, essentially saying "you can't have your cake and eat it, too." I think the case would have to be more direct injury that the one cited, though. Not "they used OpenAI and I got injured" but "I used OpenAI and I was injured." Maybe.

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          @LeslieBurns I'd guess it’s in their favour that the courts are already rejecting the arguments the ChatGPT-person is making. It wastes the court's time as much as it wastes the time of the people who were relying on an actually legal settlement. Similar to sovereign citizens taking up court time with nonsense…

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          • leslieburns@esq.socialL leslieburns@esq.social

            OpenAI is being sued for the unlicensed practice of law. I'm not sure the case will stick, but it's a fascinating theory. Medical professionals should consider similar suits, IMO.
            https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/openai-sued-for-practicing-law-without-a-license

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            @LeslieBurns and tax accountants..

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            • leslieburns@esq.socialL leslieburns@esq.social

              OpenAI is being sued for the unlicensed practice of law. I'm not sure the case will stick, but it's a fascinating theory. Medical professionals should consider similar suits, IMO.
              https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/openai-sued-for-practicing-law-without-a-license

              tessarakt@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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              @LeslieBurns I'm surprised that they bring a separate lawsuit.

              Assuming her "motions" were in a lawsuit, why not ask the judge there to issue a show cause order against her alleged attorney (not of record)?

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                @LeslieBurns I'm surprised that they bring a separate lawsuit.

                Assuming her "motions" were in a lawsuit, why not ask the judge there to issue a show cause order against her alleged attorney (not of record)?

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                @tessarakt Can't sue OpenAI for damages that way.

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                • leslieburns@esq.socialL leslieburns@esq.social

                  OpenAI is being sued for the unlicensed practice of law. I'm not sure the case will stick, but it's a fascinating theory. Medical professionals should consider similar suits, IMO.
                  https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/openai-sued-for-practicing-law-without-a-license

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                  @LeslieBurns I am very excited to see if/how OpenAI raises Section 230 in this case. It seems wildly different to other lawsuits against AI companies, the existing litigation looks closer to traditional publisher liability than these facts. In my mind, the fact that the (allegedly) vexatious litigant supposedly went looking for someone else’s characterization of her case’s facts and received a characterization that caused her to take all these actions would go against calling the prompt output user speech, and would support the inducement theory.

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                  • leslieburns@esq.socialL leslieburns@esq.social

                    OpenAI is being sued for the unlicensed practice of law. I'm not sure the case will stick, but it's a fascinating theory. Medical professionals should consider similar suits, IMO.
                    https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/openai-sued-for-practicing-law-without-a-license

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                    @LeslieBurns
                    /cc @AwetTesfaiesus

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