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  3. /e/ and Murena have been been promoting their products by misleading people about GrapheneOS for years.

/e/ and Murena have been been promoting their products by misleading people about GrapheneOS for years.

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  • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

    These inaccurate talking points used by /e/ and Murena to mislead people about the purpose of GrapheneOS, what it provides and who uses it are heavily propagated by their supporters to harm GrapheneOS in podcasts, blog posts, forums, social media and elsewhere. It's pervasive.

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    /e/ and Murena are based in France. Recently, France's national law enforcement has been smearing GrapheneOS, Signal and other privacy projects. They've heavily pushed the same false narrative as /e/ and Murena claiming GrapheneOS primarily benefits and is used by criminals.

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    • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

      /e/ and Murena are based in France. Recently, France's national law enforcement has been smearing GrapheneOS, Signal and other privacy projects. They've heavily pushed the same false narrative as /e/ and Murena claiming GrapheneOS primarily benefits and is used by criminals.

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      Both state and corporate media in France repeated inaccurate claims from their nationa law enforcement without questioning it. They presented false claims about the features, distribution, marketing and userbase. They conflated it with sketchy products which aren't GrapheneOS.

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      • niavy@masto.bikeN niavy@masto.bike

        @GrapheneOS
        Look, I am following both. GrapheneOS AND /e/.
        I've NEVER read GrapheneOS-bashing logorrhea like yours towards main LineageOS-based ROMs.

        Really, stop victimising yourself and start acknowledging that every Google-shipped alternative ROM is a step towards better. Let users pick what they want.

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        @niavy @GrapheneOS

        "I've NEVER read GrapheneOS-bashing logorrhea like yours towards main LineageOS-based ROMs."

        If the people behind /e/ and Murena and their accomplices stop their defamation and attacks, the “bashing” as you wrote can stop.

        "and start acknowledging that every Google-shipped alternative ROM is a step towards better"

        /e/OS is a significant step backward compared to AOSP and even LineageOS; it's not an improvement.

        "Let users pick what they want."

        Being aware of scams helps you make smarter choices. Freedom of choice should not be an excuse for remaining unaware of the pitfalls.

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        • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

          Both state and corporate media in France repeated inaccurate claims from their nationa law enforcement without questioning it. They presented false claims about the features, distribution, marketing and userbase. They conflated it with sketchy products which aren't GrapheneOS.

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          /e/ and Murena are aligning themselves with these false narratives about genuine privacy and security projects. Their supporters are also aligning themselves with this. Their concept of privacy is control and surveillance by EU corporations and governments instead of the US.

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          • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

            /e/ and Murena are aligning themselves with these false narratives about genuine privacy and security projects. Their supporters are also aligning themselves with this. Their concept of privacy is control and surveillance by EU corporations and governments instead of the US.

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            Podcast Projets Libres heavily promotes /e/ and Murena. They've consistently misrepresented the GrapheneOS project to promote those. Our corrections have consistently been ignored. They recently published an episode heavily pushing many of these false narratives about GrapheneOS.

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