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  • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

    in a class on using AI for data analysis and i genuinely don't want to work in information technology anymore. none of this shit works and everyone is required to use it anyway. it sounds like hell. i would literally rather flip burgers or whatever.

    peter@thepit.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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    peter@thepit.social
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    #2

    feels like the worst time to be alive if you are the kind of person who is passionate about learning to do things the right way.

    peter@thepit.socialP coreysnipes@hachyderm.ioC dragomana@frikiverse.zoneD mark@canuck.socialM 4 Replies Last reply
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    • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

      feels like the worst time to be alive if you are the kind of person who is passionate about learning to do things the right way.

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      peter@thepit.social
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      just fucking dark. everything is so dark right now.

      S glyph@mastodon.socialG samerfarha@mastodon.socialS saltywizard@beige.partyS minmi@sfba.socialM 5 Replies Last reply
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      • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

        feels like the worst time to be alive if you are the kind of person who is passionate about learning to do things the right way.

        coreysnipes@hachyderm.ioC This user is from outside of this forum
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        coreysnipes@hachyderm.io
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        #4

        @peter All I can say as a 30-year tech participant, is I agree with you about the current state of things, and I believe there is still a foundation of principled work out there. Some people really want it and care about it; there's just a huge amount of noise overshadowing those people right now. I truly believe it's temporary, but I also sympathize with anyone moving to work outside the industry. I've had similar thoughts myself.

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          cosmicktrigger@social.edist.ro
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          #5

          @violetmadder @peter

          There are news stories I remember - ones that back leftwing points of view - that are just gone now, it seems.

          And articles about regular stuff are all written by AI and full of just wrong information.

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          • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

            in a class on using AI for data analysis and i genuinely don't want to work in information technology anymore. none of this shit works and everyone is required to use it anyway. it sounds like hell. i would literally rather flip burgers or whatever.

            thestrangelet@beige.partyT This user is from outside of this forum
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            @peter I've been in DevOps/SRE for 20 years and agree completely. We are all being forced into what @doctorow calls "reverse centaurs." We are serving the machine now, which in return is serving our oligarch overlords.

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            • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

              in a class on using AI for data analysis and i genuinely don't want to work in information technology anymore. none of this shit works and everyone is required to use it anyway. it sounds like hell. i would literally rather flip burgers or whatever.

              johnzajac@dice.campJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              johnzajac@dice.camp
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              @peter

              Is the class just a chalkboard with the word "Don't." written on it?

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              • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                in a class on using AI for data analysis and i genuinely don't want to work in information technology anymore. none of this shit works and everyone is required to use it anyway. it sounds like hell. i would literally rather flip burgers or whatever.

                armando@rollenspiel.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                armando@rollenspiel.social
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                @peter there is still hope. As we are very niche and the Systems are very proprietatory we need to teach it. No AI. The Young ones are good and want to learn. Yes, we are falling back to books, to hands on sessions. Old books, but these are our new seniors. We have to teach them our skills and they want to learn.

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                • cosmicktrigger@social.edist.roC cosmicktrigger@social.edist.ro

                  @violetmadder @peter

                  There are news stories I remember - ones that back leftwing points of view - that are just gone now, it seems.

                  And articles about regular stuff are all written by AI and full of just wrong information.

                  dpflug@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
                  dpflug@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
                  dpflug@hachyderm.io
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                  @CosmickTrigger
                  It's time for (some of) us to become archivists. Keep copies and/or notes of anything we care about.
                  @violetmadder @peter

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                  • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                    feels like the worst time to be alive if you are the kind of person who is passionate about learning to do things the right way.

                    dragomana@frikiverse.zoneD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    dragomana@frikiverse.zone
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                    @peter My feelings exactly as a translator who was trying to reorient her career toward IT. I feel like I arrive late to every field.

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                    • dragomana@frikiverse.zoneD dragomana@frikiverse.zone

                      @peter My feelings exactly as a translator who was trying to reorient her career toward IT. I feel like I arrive late to every field.

                      peter@thepit.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                      peter@thepit.social
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                      @dragomana heyyyyy exactly the same. 🤝

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                      • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                        just fucking dark. everything is so dark right now.

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                        slotos@toot.community
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                        @peter Every argument against AI gets brushed away and every response started with „you’re right” without ever addressing any point.

                        I’m so fucking done…

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                        • coreysnipes@hachyderm.ioC coreysnipes@hachyderm.io

                          @peter All I can say as a 30-year tech participant, is I agree with you about the current state of things, and I believe there is still a foundation of principled work out there. Some people really want it and care about it; there's just a huge amount of noise overshadowing those people right now. I truly believe it's temporary, but I also sympathize with anyone moving to work outside the industry. I've had similar thoughts myself.

                          peter@thepit.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @coreysnipes I'm trying to get into the industry and now about to give up. my kid is 16 and wants to study computer engineering, I hope his timing is right.

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                          • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                            in a class on using AI for data analysis and i genuinely don't want to work in information technology anymore. none of this shit works and everyone is required to use it anyway. it sounds like hell. i would literally rather flip burgers or whatever.

                            990000@mstdn.social9 This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @peter speaking of, I just spent some time noodling around with local Mac LLM (via Apfel) just to see if it can do some simple things and it made me so sad that I want to close my laptop and play with my synthesizer. At least synths do what they're supposed to lol

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                            • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                              just fucking dark. everything is so dark right now.

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                              glyph@mastodon.social
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                              @peter you’re not alone in the darkness, at least

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                              • dpflug@hachyderm.ioD dpflug@hachyderm.io

                                @CosmickTrigger
                                It's time for (some of) us to become archivists. Keep copies and/or notes of anything we care about.
                                @violetmadder @peter

                                daedalean@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                daedalean@mastodon.social
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                                @dpflug @CosmickTrigger @violetmadder @peter and hope the sun has an episode soon so it matters.

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                                • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                                  in a class on using AI for data analysis and i genuinely don't want to work in information technology anymore. none of this shit works and everyone is required to use it anyway. it sounds like hell. i would literally rather flip burgers or whatever.

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                                  yamac@hachyderm.io
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                                  @peter I am forced to use AI in my work, or I am left behind. I still keep the quality under control and. But everywhere I see, the hustle culture... No respect to the arts, just ship it and deploy it...

                                  I have lost my joy to code, and all my fascination with computers in last 2 years.

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                                  • coreysnipes@hachyderm.ioC coreysnipes@hachyderm.io

                                    @peter All I can say as a 30-year tech participant, is I agree with you about the current state of things, and I believe there is still a foundation of principled work out there. Some people really want it and care about it; there's just a huge amount of noise overshadowing those people right now. I truly believe it's temporary, but I also sympathize with anyone moving to work outside the industry. I've had similar thoughts myself.

                                    oberstenzian@mastodon.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    oberstenzian@mastodon.social
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                                    @coreysnipes @peter Unless we take action this isn’t temporary. It will be the permanent state of affairs.

                                    We must destroy AI and the criminal organizations that are creating it. And by AI I meanmean this LLM based stochastic parrot bullshit.

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                                    • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                                      just fucking dark. everything is so dark right now.

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                                      samerfarha@mastodon.social
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                                      @peter it’s pretty bleak.

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                                      • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                                        just fucking dark. everything is so dark right now.

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                                        @peter

                                        i couldn't take it any more. i quit tech six months ago and now i drive a city bus. best decision ever. i've never been happier or healthier.

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                                        • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                                          @coreysnipes I'm trying to get into the industry and now about to give up. my kid is 16 and wants to study computer engineering, I hope his timing is right.

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                                          rupert@mastodon.nz
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                                          @peter @coreysnipes
                                          I think you're screwed. I've spoken to hiring managers whose first question is "how much do you spend on tokens per month?" There are people hiring for non-AI jobs, but they want experience from before these dark times.
                                          An actual computer engineering degree may be valuable in the future, I certainly hope it will, we will need to engineer our way out of this pit, but it's not a great bet.

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