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One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.

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  • ojelabii@norden.socialO ojelabii@norden.social

    @zeri "[…] insisting one crime is ok because someone else is doing something similar or worse". It's rather the other way around in my case! I do not say, that one crime is okay. What I try to say is: please don't overlook those other crimes by focusing alone on this one. (I do not say, that you did so, but many does, in my perception.) This one crime is a crime and a crime is never good. But let us not close our eyes to all the other crimes to only highlight this.
    @yonkeltron @streetartutopia

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    @ojelabii @yonkeltron @streetartutopia that wasn't aimed at you but at mr "look Iran, Isis, Hamas, Sudan, all horrible stop looking at gaza you antisemite" over there who is damning Israel with faint praise.

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    • zeri@chaos.socialZ zeri@chaos.social

      @yonkeltron @ojelabii @streetartutopia stop that antisemite bullshit Israel is not "the jews" it's Israel. There are so many jews that don't want anything to do with that little revenge party Israel is throwing in gaza. So take your bullshit and put it where the sun doesn't shine you fucking antisemite! You wouldn't lay ISIS at the feet of Moslems in Indonesia either.

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      @zeri @ojelabii @streetartutopia if you want to criticize Israel, get in line. Behind me, because I’m a Palestinian Nationalist, actually. But calling an asymmetrical war a genocide but not other things? That’s a genuine antisemitic double standard because it implies Jews have a special capacity for evil.

      I’m not saying criticism of Israel is antisemitic. I’m saying that if you only call Israel to task and not others, then you are an antisemite.

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      • ojelabii@norden.socialO ojelabii@norden.social

        @zeri "[…] insisting one crime is ok because someone else is doing something similar or worse". It's rather the other way around in my case! I do not say, that one crime is okay. What I try to say is: please don't overlook those other crimes by focusing alone on this one. (I do not say, that you did so, but many does, in my perception.) This one crime is a crime and a crime is never good. But let us not close our eyes to all the other crimes to only highlight this.
        @yonkeltron @streetartutopia

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        @ojelabii @zeri @streetartutopia hear, hear.

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        • cyrille37@mamot.frC cyrille37@mamot.fr

          Thanks @streetartutopia for this. May I reuse this picture ? If yes, whats the source for citation ?
          Thanks & regards

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          @Cyrille37 @streetartutopia hi, it's been noticed that the source is AI

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          • streetartutopia@mastodon.onlineS streetartutopia@mastodon.online

            One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.

            Gaza in 2023 and 2026 💔

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            @streetartutopia Is that bottom image real? It seems absurdly implausible that it could've been taken at the exact same camera angle, height, and location as the first image given the immense destruction that has occurred around where the camera is sitting at? A reverse image search also only turned up a few X accounts reposting it with no source.

            (Note: I'm only questioning the validity of that particular image, not the destruction that has actually occurred in Gaza as a whole)

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            • ojelabii@norden.socialO ojelabii@norden.social

              @zeri "[…] insisting one crime is ok because someone else is doing something similar or worse". It's rather the other way around in my case! I do not say, that one crime is okay. What I try to say is: please don't overlook those other crimes by focusing alone on this one. (I do not say, that you did so, but many does, in my perception.) This one crime is a crime and a crime is never good. But let us not close our eyes to all the other crimes to only highlight this.
              @yonkeltron @streetartutopia

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              @ojelabii @yonkeltron @streetartutopia do the test in the other direction, are chinese pointing to Israel to defend their little genocide? Are people defending ISIS with "look at Israel"? Are Iranians defending their brutal murder of tens of thousands of citizens with Israels conduct? Well they don't where I live. Here all that stuff is called out in the media except for Israel, somehow for that we deliver explosives while the rest of the world keeps telling us to stop delivering weapons.

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              • streetartutopia@mastodon.onlineS streetartutopia@mastodon.online

                One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.

                Gaza in 2023 and 2026 💔

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                @streetartutopia
                How it started:
                Kibbuz Nir Oz. After Oct 7th 2023, with 1200 persons, women, children, babies, slaughtered, raped, mutilated. 250 hostages taken, kept in tunnels, sexually abused, starved.
                https://www.derstandard.at/story/3000000290013/reportage-aus-dem-kibbuz-nir-oz-greifen-sie-wieder-an

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                • streetartutopia@mastodon.onlineS streetartutopia@mastodon.online

                  One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.

                  Gaza in 2023 and 2026 💔

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                  @streetartutopia

                  As Muslims we believe in the Afterlife. Everyone will get justice on the Day of Judgment if they don't get justice here in this life. Criminals will be punished severely.

                  Allah will definitely reward the people of Gaza and Palestine beyond their imagination in the Paradise.

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                  • streetartutopia@mastodon.onlineS streetartutopia@mastodon.online

                    One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.

                    Gaza in 2023 and 2026 💔

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                    @streetartutopia Bloody genocidal fuckwits.

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                    • gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.placeG gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      @ojelabii @zeri @streetartutopia it's like saying "that person is a murdered, we'll go to their hometown, kill everyone there and destroy every building".
                      That's not justice. It's a pretext for senseless barbary.

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                      @gkrnours Again, I don't justify how Israel reacted. I simply point out, that Hamas has started it and constantly attacks Israel, which it wishes to be annihilated. I want people to see the whole picture without justifying all of Israels actions. Without the Hamas, there wouldn't be this devastation.
                      @zeri @streetartutopia

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                      • ojelabii@norden.socialO ojelabii@norden.social

                        @gkrnours Again, I don't justify how Israel reacted. I simply point out, that Hamas has started it and constantly attacks Israel, which it wishes to be annihilated. I want people to see the whole picture without justifying all of Israels actions. Without the Hamas, there wouldn't be this devastation.
                        @zeri @streetartutopia

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                        @gkrnours Does that justify everything Israel did? No? Is Israel the one and only bad guy in the room? Nope either? Does Isreal still have a right to exist? Definitely yes! Do people ignore warcrimes unrelated to Israel or jews! Yes and I too wonder why.
                        @zeri @streetartutopia

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                        • ojelabii@norden.socialO ojelabii@norden.social

                          @gkrnours Does that justify everything Israel did? No? Is Israel the one and only bad guy in the room? Nope either? Does Isreal still have a right to exist? Definitely yes! Do people ignore warcrimes unrelated to Israel or jews! Yes and I too wonder why.
                          @zeri @streetartutopia

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                          @ojelabii @gkrnours @streetartutopia I agree on every point but the last one. People are demanding that Israel gets the same condemnation for the same act which is clearly not happening if you live in the EU. We don't have a trade association agreement with ISIS, we don't deliver weapons to Iran, and we aren't financing the genocide in Sudan. But for Israel somehow we keep doing that stuff to a degree that implies complicity not just looking away.

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                          • streetartutopia@mastodon.onlineS streetartutopia@mastodon.online

                            One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.

                            Gaza in 2023 and 2026 💔

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                            @streetartutopia I think it very likely that the above image is AI-generated, as it's just too perfect. I highly recommend you take down this post. There's plenty of real images of the genocide in Gaza to use.

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                            • parmon@masto.esP parmon@masto.es

                              @Cyrille37 @streetartutopia hi, it's been noticed that the source is AI

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                              @Parmon @Cyrille37 @streetartutopia

                              I have also been looking for a souce, and was unable to find one, although I'm not that good at G searches and I don't speak arabic

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                              • streetartutopia@mastodon.onlineS streetartutopia@mastodon.online

                                One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.

                                Gaza in 2023 and 2026 💔

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                                @streetartutopia

                                @MarianneTiel
                                @thejessiekirk
                                @pa27

                                can anyone verify this particular image ?
                                I did some google searches and failed, but that doesn't mean that much

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                                • zeri@chaos.socialZ zeri@chaos.social

                                  @ojelabii @yonkeltron @streetartutopia do the test in the other direction, are chinese pointing to Israel to defend their little genocide? Are people defending ISIS with "look at Israel"? Are Iranians defending their brutal murder of tens of thousands of citizens with Israels conduct? Well they don't where I live. Here all that stuff is called out in the media except for Israel, somehow for that we deliver explosives while the rest of the world keeps telling us to stop delivering weapons.

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                                  @zeri Again: I never said that Israels actions where okay, because of what others did, did I? Didn't I already agreed, that Israels attacks may count as warcrimes and may be discussed at court one day? Where do you see me justifying Israels actions by simply pointing out other bullies in the game? Hamas declared openly for decades that they would annihilate Israel if they've been given the chance, yet you point only at Israel, whilst declaring genocidal ideations?
                                  @yonkeltron @streetartutopia

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                                  • ojelabii@norden.socialO ojelabii@norden.social

                                    @zeri Firstly: That comparison »is« devastating. Secondly: If you write "nothing justifies this" … would that count for the Hamas »as well« (which knowingly started this all with their October 7 attacks from 2023)?
                                    @streetartutopia

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                                    @ojelabii @zeri @streetartutopia And just like that, he jumps 75 years of ethnic cleansing to "but Hamas is also bad".
                                    I think a #GenocideinGaza surpasses any excuse.
                                    By the way,go and find reports from NYT and even Haaretz investigating the #hannibaldoctrine applied by #IsraelTerroristState during 7th October and count who killed who.
                                    Everything else is just #badhasbara
                                    #FreePalestine

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                                    • F failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to

                                      @streetartutopia

                                      @MarianneTiel
                                      @thejessiekirk
                                      @pa27

                                      can anyone verify this particular image ?
                                      I did some google searches and failed, but that doesn't mean that much

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                                      @failedLyndonLaRouchite I don't think the top image is genuine. The bottom image may be a real destroyed city. @streetartutopia @MarianneTiel @pa27

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                                      • ojelabii@norden.socialO ojelabii@norden.social

                                        @zeri "[…] insisting one crime is ok because someone else is doing something similar or worse". It's rather the other way around in my case! I do not say, that one crime is okay. What I try to say is: please don't overlook those other crimes by focusing alone on this one. (I do not say, that you did so, but many does, in my perception.) This one crime is a crime and a crime is never good. But let us not close our eyes to all the other crimes to only highlight this.
                                        @yonkeltron @streetartutopia

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                                        @ojelabii @zeri@chaos.social @streetartutopia peace is the answer. Simply.

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                                        • thejessiekirk@ohai.socialT thejessiekirk@ohai.social

                                          @failedLyndonLaRouchite I don't think the top image is genuine. The bottom image may be a real destroyed city. @streetartutopia @MarianneTiel @pa27

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                                          @thejessiekirk @streetartutopia @MarianneTiel @pa27

                                          that is my conclusion

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