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  • ojelabii@norden.socialO ojelabii@norden.social

    @zeri "not relitigating one horrible unjustifiable crime with another." The term "relitigate" is unfamiliar to me. If it means something similar to justify, than I have to contradict, that I haven't justified anything here (as I tried to explain in another long post, that has either been deleted meanwhile (or I may have been blocked), so that my response there has got lost. Pointing out that there may be war-crimes on both sides of a conflict isn't justifying though, I think!?
    @streetartutopia

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    @ojelabii @streetartutopia means the judge doesn't care that other guy killed your cat when you torched his home in revenge. One gets to stand trial for animal cruelty the otehr gets to stand trial for arson.

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    • zeri@chaos.socialZ zeri@chaos.social

      @ojelabii @streetartutopia PS: sorry for offending you, but this stuff sounds like the bullshit my government is producing on the issue. It's always "but october 7th" meaning Palestinians get no justice, while Israel is getting a surplus.

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      @zeri That wasn't offending in my understanding. We may just disagree. Disagreement isn't a bad thing, in my opinion. Disagreement may even be unavoidably necessary to speak with anybody outside ones own peer-group or "bubble". And to speak with one another is the only way I know of, to end a conflict … aside from using even more violence, that is to say.
      @streetartutopia

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      • streetartutopia@mastodon.onlineS streetartutopia@mastodon.online

        One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.

        Gaza in 2023 and 2026 💔

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        @streetartutopia
        This belongs next to a photo from Auschwitz.

        Nobody can find one acceptable and not the other and not be the biggest fucking hypocrite the world has ever seen.

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          @Spirit @ojelabii @streetartutopia @zeri
          It's good when these zionists come outta the woodwork. Makes 'em easy to block.

          "Do you condemn Hamas?"
          What a fucking cliche.
          ☠️

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          • leeloo@c.imL leeloo@c.im

            @streetartutopia
            This belongs next to a photo from Auschwitz.

            Nobody can find one acceptable and not the other and not be the biggest fucking hypocrite the world has ever seen.

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            @leeloo
            Stop equating war (and potential war crimes) with planned, industrialized annihilation of people.
            This is antisemitic bullshit. Period.

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            • ifrauding@don.linxx.netI ifrauding@don.linxx.net

              @leeloo
              Stop equating war (and potential war crimes) with planned, industrialized annihilation of people.
              This is antisemitic bullshit. Period.

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              @ifrauding @leeloo

              No it's absolutely not, on the contrary anyone who knows and understands the Holocaust immediately recognize the similarities. If you knew what's happening in Gaza you'd know it's at times just as cruel and just as inhumane.

              Being killed by overwhelming firepower dropped from the skies, or starved to death, or raped by dogs in prison, because Palestinians lives are treated as completely unimportant - this is exactly the kind of inhumanity that we saw during the Holocaust.

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              • amici@fribygda.noA amici@fribygda.no

                @ifrauding @leeloo

                No it's absolutely not, on the contrary anyone who knows and understands the Holocaust immediately recognize the similarities. If you knew what's happening in Gaza you'd know it's at times just as cruel and just as inhumane.

                Being killed by overwhelming firepower dropped from the skies, or starved to death, or raped by dogs in prison, because Palestinians lives are treated as completely unimportant - this is exactly the kind of inhumanity that we saw during the Holocaust.

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                @ifrauding @leeloo

                Whether your skinny body is poisoned in a gas chamber or crushed under a building makes no difference to the victims.

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                • ojelabii@norden.socialO ojelabii@norden.social

                  @zeri Firstly: That comparison »is« devastating. Secondly: If you write "nothing justifies this" … would that count for the Hamas »as well« (which knowingly started this all with their October 7 attacks from 2023)?
                  @streetartutopia

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                  @ojelabii
                  Beep boop 🤖: whataboutism detected.
                  @zeri @streetartutopia

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                  • ifrauding@don.linxx.netI ifrauding@don.linxx.net

                    @leeloo
                    Stop equating war (and potential war crimes) with planned, industrialized annihilation of people.
                    This is antisemitic bullshit. Period.

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                    @ifrauding @leeloo

                    Comparing Israel to Nazi Germany is absolutely insane.

                    Israel got away with it.

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                    • leeloo@c.imL leeloo@c.im

                      @streetartutopia
                      This belongs next to a photo from Auschwitz.

                      Nobody can find one acceptable and not the other and not be the biggest fucking hypocrite the world has ever seen.

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                      @leeloo i think it's best to reject crimes on their own merit.

                      Israel did this. It's a war crime and a genocide. They stand accused by the ICC and rightfully so.

                      Bringing up Oct 7, or the Holocaust just provides irrelevant distractions from the very clear legal and ethical reality.

                      There's no excuse, no debate, no comparison, just judgement and punishment for them. The only place this should be allowed to be defended is in court in the Hague.

                      @streetartutopia

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                      • windofchange@mastodon.onlineW windofchange@mastodon.online

                        @ojelabii
                        Beep boop 🤖: whataboutism detected.
                        @zeri @streetartutopia

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                        @WindOfChange If you think so. One other already blocked me for being a zionist. I don't think, that I am, but those blocks make my life easier as well. Have a nice day nevertheless.
                        @zeri @streetartutopia

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                        • streetartutopia@mastodon.onlineS streetartutopia@mastodon.online

                          One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.

                          Gaza in 2023 and 2026 💔

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                          @streetartutopia Unless there's a fixed webcam that's miraculously stayed in place there despite every building around it being leveled then this is AI generated. Both images have pixel-perfect identical framing, which is impossible to achieve years apart even in perfect conditions. Given the abundance of genuine photographic evidence of the destruction of Gaza it seems unhelpful to spread AI-generated approximations that risk feeding zionist narratives about fabricated evidence.

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                          • ojelabii@norden.socialO ojelabii@norden.social

                            @WindOfChange If you think so. One other already blocked me for being a zionist. I don't think, that I am, but those blocks make my life easier as well. Have a nice day nevertheless.
                            @zeri @streetartutopia

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                            @ojelabii @WindOfChange @streetartutopia yea well I get called an antisemite a lot and blocked too. Just take it in Germany being called a zionist is a lot less harmful than being called a antisemite. I take it it might be different if you live in Ireland or Spain. Get used to it people are not rational with this topic, which is understandable considering the mountain of corpses we are talking about.

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                            • ojelabii@norden.socialO ojelabii@norden.social

                              @zeri Firstly: That comparison »is« devastating. Secondly: If you write "nothing justifies this" … would that count for the Hamas »as well« (which knowingly started this all with their October 7 attacks from 2023)?
                              @streetartutopia

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                              @ojelabii @zeri @streetartutopia

                              Bombing for peace is fucking for virginity.

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                              • streetartutopia@mastodon.onlineS streetartutopia@mastodon.online

                                One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.

                                Gaza in 2023 and 2026 💔

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                                @streetartutopia
                                An utterly evil genocide primarily paid for by american taxpayers. The USA is a demonic state.

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                                • streetartutopia@mastodon.onlineS streetartutopia@mastodon.online

                                  One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.

                                  Gaza in 2023 and 2026 💔

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                                  @streetartutopia

                                  You're an interesting species. An interesting mix. You're capable of such beautiful dreams, and such horrible nightmares. You feel so lost, so cut off, so alone, only you're not. See, in all our searching, the only thing we've found that makes the emptiness bearable, is each other.

                                  Carl Sagan, Contact

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                                  • zeri@chaos.socialZ zeri@chaos.social

                                    @ojelabii @WindOfChange @streetartutopia yea well I get called an antisemite a lot and blocked too. Just take it in Germany being called a zionist is a lot less harmful than being called a antisemite. I take it it might be different if you live in Ireland or Spain. Get used to it people are not rational with this topic, which is understandable considering the mountain of corpses we are talking about.

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                                    @zeri Oh, I'm fine with it. I just don't think, that I qualify by definition with that term. (And to to be honest: I knew what to expect, when I firstly responded here. Still: I think that speaking with each other [rather than blocking each other away] is the only way to end conflicts really.) And yes, I'm careful with giving out labels as well (or at least… I try to)! So no label for you here, I'm afraid. Have a nice day and thanks for the time you took for this!
                                    @WindOfChange @streetartutopia

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                                    • ifrauding@don.linxx.netI ifrauding@don.linxx.net

                                      @leeloo
                                      Stop equating war (and potential war crimes) with planned, industrialized annihilation of people.
                                      This is antisemitic bullshit. Period.

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                                      @ifrauding @leeloo the planned, industrialised annihilation of people is exactly what Israel is doing to Palestinians.

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                                      • henry@radikal.socialH henry@radikal.social

                                        @streetartutopia Unless there's a fixed webcam that's miraculously stayed in place there despite every building around it being leveled then this is AI generated. Both images have pixel-perfect identical framing, which is impossible to achieve years apart even in perfect conditions. Given the abundance of genuine photographic evidence of the destruction of Gaza it seems unhelpful to spread AI-generated approximations that risk feeding zionist narratives about fabricated evidence.

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                                        @streetartutopia wonder which type of munitions can cause this specific very interesting pattern of damage to electrical poles

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                                        • walruths@mastodon.socialW walruths@mastodon.social

                                          @ojelabii @zeri @streetartutopia

                                          Bombing for peace is fucking for virginity.

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                                          @Walruths Agreed, wholeheartedly! Yet I don't see this in conflict to what I wrote above.
                                          @zeri @streetartutopia

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