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" #Democrats deliver ‘stunning’ flip in New Hampshire special election, latest in series of 28 upsets"

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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @saltywizard @davoyager

    unfortunately, you bring up the *next* level of stupidity out there:

    the cosplay revolutionary

    they want the pitchforks

    1. revolutions happen when people are hungry. if they aren't hungry, you get a few rebels who are quickly defeated, then used as an excuse by fascists to remove more rights

    2. an actual revolution is 1 million X suffering. then who wins might even be worse. but even with a good result, we preserve it BY VOTING

    why not just vote left now instead?

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    @benroyce @davoyager

    exactly.

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    • andrew@mastodon.furrow.meA andrew@mastodon.furrow.me

      @benroyce @davoyager I’m guilty of #moron. DNC’s favoritism towards neoliberal status quo meat shields who represent their donors erodes my confidence in grassroots success. Maybe this will finally be the time in my life when there’s such overwhelming support for real progressives that we see an end to capital deciding our fate? Or maybe they’ll wait until Super Tuesday and install the beleaguered skeletal husk of Joe Biden again, then replace him with Gavin Newsom backed by Palantir & Anduril.

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      #14

      @andrew @davoyager

      agreed

      the answer to your question is we mob the fucking primaries coming up soon and get real leftist candidates in there

      the problem is primary turnout is *atrocious*

      then we get 1 billion social media comments whining the dem candidates suck

      🤦

      just imagine if all that energy was instead spent just showing up in the fucking primaries

      and this is where we note that a lot of the whining energy out there is a purposeful trollfarm effort to suppress leftist vote turnout

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      • D davoyager@mastodon.social

        @christopherbrown Give Talarico another look. The idea is to defeat Cornyn . I believe Crockett couldn't do that in Texas. Also I love her work in the House and I think she should stay there for a while.

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        @davoyager I have no choice but to vote Talarico. Crockett did not win the nomination, voting GOP is not an option, sitting out is not an option.

        As @benroyce has been saying lean hard left, then vote for what you get. I voted for Crockett in the primary, but I’m not all wastey panty over her not winning.

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          @mattdm @davoyager

          right, but just to clarify:

          when you post this is your intent

          "both sides the same, don't vote"

          thus helping MAGA, intentionally or unintentionally

          or is it

          "so replace corporatist dems with real leftists by showing up in the primaries"

          please note:

          i'm not accusing you of anything

          i'm saying: when you post this, you need to finish the point of your post

          otherwise you feed this sort of cynical hopeless whiny entitled perfectionist turd who only helps fascism

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          @benroyce @davoyager

          The second one.

          These guys suck. Vote them out, or vote in an overwhelming number of people who at least suck a little bit less so that they don't get to make all the decisions and feel all special.

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            @andrew @davoyager

            agreed

            the answer to your question is we mob the fucking primaries coming up soon and get real leftist candidates in there

            the problem is primary turnout is *atrocious*

            then we get 1 billion social media comments whining the dem candidates suck

            🤦

            just imagine if all that energy was instead spent just showing up in the fucking primaries

            and this is where we note that a lot of the whining energy out there is a purposeful trollfarm effort to suppress leftist vote turnout

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            @benroyce @davoyager what’s really soul crushing is when you hear about a candidate running unopposed. How do we not have a database with good UI/UX that independents & newcomers seeking party support can find races where their only competition is some 1,000 year old okiedoke who hasn’t brought their best for decades?

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            • mattdm@hachyderm.ioM mattdm@hachyderm.io

              @benroyce @davoyager

              The second one.

              These guys suck. Vote them out, or vote in an overwhelming number of people who at least suck a little bit less so that they don't get to make all the decisions and feel all special.

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              #18

              @mattdm @davoyager

              thank you

              and help your own goal you just stated by always denoting that in posts that point out how much the democrats suck

              "democrats suck"

              1. "...therefore don't vote, and only help MAGA and fascism"

              2. "...therefore vote in the primaries, to get real left candidates"

              ALWAYS indicate #2 in your posts, so that #1 is not the effect of your posts

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              • andrew@mastodon.furrow.meA andrew@mastodon.furrow.me

                @benroyce @davoyager what’s really soul crushing is when you hear about a candidate running unopposed. How do we not have a database with good UI/UX that independents & newcomers seeking party support can find races where their only competition is some 1,000 year old okiedoke who hasn’t brought their best for decades?

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                @andrew @davoyager

                we can build it. that's an important job, among many important jobs we have to do

                but job #1 is we need to show the fuck up

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                • saltywizard@beige.partyS saltywizard@beige.party

                  @benroyce @davoyager

                  agreed.

                  it's either this or pitchforks, folx, take your pick.

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                  @saltywizard @benroyce @davoyager Which is it? Pitchfork or pick? The former would be better for tossing out rotten old garbage, but the latter better for fossilized blockheads.

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @davoyager

                    the #Democrats do suck. it's not just #Fetterman. many go "aw shucks" and then speak for their special interest donors instead of the people

                    but

                    the Dems are also #AOC, #Mamdani, #Talarico, #Warren, etc

                    so

                    we show up in the #primaries and get 50 Mamdanis on the #ballot for the November #election

                    if instead someone goes "Fetterman exists, therefore all Dems are the same as the #GOP" they are #trollfarm from the right working a divide and conquer angle, or they are a moron

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                    #21

                    @benroyce @davoyager so true. Contructive, not fatalistic. People suck, but some suck far less 🙂

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                    • log@mastodon.sdf.orgL log@mastodon.sdf.org

                      @saltywizard @benroyce @davoyager Which is it? Pitchfork or pick? The former would be better for tossing out rotten old garbage, but the latter better for fossilized blockheads.

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                      @log @saltywizard @davoyager

                      guillotine

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @log @saltywizard @davoyager

                        guillotine

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                        @benroyce @saltywizard @davoyager That's a good way to get ahead of a governance crisis.

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @mattdm @davoyager

                          thank you

                          and help your own goal you just stated by always denoting that in posts that point out how much the democrats suck

                          "democrats suck"

                          1. "...therefore don't vote, and only help MAGA and fascism"

                          2. "...therefore vote in the primaries, to get real left candidates"

                          ALWAYS indicate #2 in your posts, so that #1 is not the effect of your posts

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                          @benroyce @mattdm @davoyager #2, and it's the only reason I'm a registered Democrat: depending on the candidates, I might "throw away" my vote for a bona fide socialist or as close as I can find to one. Note: I did not do that last year and Harris and our Democratic Senator who was up would've won my state even if a pretty sizeable bunch of us had.

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @log @saltywizard @davoyager

                            guillotine

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                            @benroyce @log @saltywizard @davoyager

                            This word is delightful even without the rest of the context of the conversation.

                            What if... We just did workshops on how to build guillotines?

                            Sorry, I saw the word and got a little excited.

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                            • D davoyager@mastodon.social

                              @benroyce This kind of bothsideism is what has gotten us in this situation in the first place. The only Dem I can think of who "sucks" is Fetterman. Name another one or give it a rest

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                              @davoyager @benroyce Kyrsten Sinema?

                              Oh, wait, she's gone. Wonder how that happened? She saw the polling data for her upcoming primary.

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                              • kingtor@frontrange.coK kingtor@frontrange.co

                                @benroyce @mattdm @davoyager #2, and it's the only reason I'm a registered Democrat: depending on the candidates, I might "throw away" my vote for a bona fide socialist or as close as I can find to one. Note: I did not do that last year and Harris and our Democratic Senator who was up would've won my state even if a pretty sizeable bunch of us had.

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                                @kingtor @mattdm @davoyager

                                🙏

                                thank you

                                there is zero shame in "i fucked up, but i won't fuck up again"

                                we all fuck up in life

                                there is plenty of shame in "i fucked up, and i'm doubling down, because i can't admit to myself i am not perfect. i never say or do anything wrong"

                                getting rid of #trump, #MAGA, and #fascism depends upon millions of nonvoters admitting they fucked up, and showing the fuck up

                                especially in the #primaries to get us real #left #candidates!

                                #vote

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                                • 401matthall@mastodon.xyz4 401matthall@mastodon.xyz

                                  @benroyce @log @saltywizard @davoyager

                                  This word is delightful even without the rest of the context of the conversation.

                                  What if... We just did workshops on how to build guillotines?

                                  Sorry, I saw the word and got a little excited.

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                                  @401matthall @log @saltywizard @davoyager

                                  😆

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @andrew @davoyager

                                    we can build it. that's an important job, among many important jobs we have to do

                                    but job #1 is we need to show the fuck up

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                                    @benroyce @davoyager so many jobs. We millennials, especially, have been asleep at the wheel, or watching US politics like a spectator sport.

                                    It’s not an accident that they keep screwing us - it reinforces that feeling of helplessness!

                                    We need to email blast every dem and independent about every upcoming thing they need to do now until the general, and keep doing it.

                                    Wakey wakey! Every election matters. EVERY ELECTION.

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                                    • 401matthall@mastodon.xyz4 401matthall@mastodon.xyz

                                      @benroyce @log @saltywizard @davoyager

                                      This word is delightful even without the rest of the context of the conversation.

                                      What if... We just did workshops on how to build guillotines?

                                      Sorry, I saw the word and got a little excited.

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                                      @401matthall @benroyce @saltywizard @davoyager As a patriotic American, I think we should make the device more compact by replacing the potential energy storage with an automobile suspension spring or two. And pay honor to our political system by winding it up with a ratchet and pawl that gets more dangerous the more you crank it over to the right.

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                                      • log@mastodon.sdf.orgL log@mastodon.sdf.org

                                        @401matthall @benroyce @saltywizard @davoyager As a patriotic American, I think we should make the device more compact by replacing the potential energy storage with an automobile suspension spring or two. And pay honor to our political system by winding it up with a ratchet and pawl that gets more dangerous the more you crank it over to the right.

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                                        @log @benroyce @saltywizard @davoyager

                                        Fuck'n stahp it.

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          @kingtor @mattdm @davoyager

                                          🙏

                                          thank you

                                          there is zero shame in "i fucked up, but i won't fuck up again"

                                          we all fuck up in life

                                          there is plenty of shame in "i fucked up, and i'm doubling down, because i can't admit to myself i am not perfect. i never say or do anything wrong"

                                          getting rid of #trump, #MAGA, and #fascism depends upon millions of nonvoters admitting they fucked up, and showing the fuck up

                                          especially in the #primaries to get us real #left #candidates!

                                          #vote

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                                          @benroyce @kingtor @mattdm @davoyager you know what: IF this happens the US just propelled itself to the front line of the most epic battle of all times and the world will be able to learn from that fight for generations to come. my guys you are making history.

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