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  • mattdm@hachyderm.ioM mattdm@hachyderm.io

    @davoyager @benroyce

    Here's four more!

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    The Democrats Who Voted Against the War Powers Resolution

    Trump "has so far acted within the authorities given to him by Congress through the War Powers Act of 1973," argued one Democratic lawmaker.

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    TIME (time.com)

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    #9

    @mattdm @davoyager

    right, but just to clarify:

    when you post this is your intent

    "both sides the same, don't vote"

    thus helping MAGA, intentionally or unintentionally

    or is it

    "so replace corporatist dems with real leftists by showing up in the primaries"

    please note:

    i'm not accusing you of anything

    i'm saying: when you post this, you need to finish the point of your post

    otherwise you feed this sort of cynical hopeless whiny entitled perfectionist turd who only helps fascism

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @davoyager

      the #Democrats do suck. it's not just #Fetterman. many go "aw shucks" and then speak for their special interest donors instead of the people

      but

      the Dems are also #AOC, #Mamdani, #Talarico, #Warren, etc

      so

      we show up in the #primaries and get 50 Mamdanis on the #ballot for the November #election

      if instead someone goes "Fetterman exists, therefore all Dems are the same as the #GOP" they are #trollfarm from the right working a divide and conquer angle, or they are a moron

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      #10

      @benroyce @davoyager

      agreed.

      it's either this or pitchforks, folx, take your pick.

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      • saltywizard@beige.partyS saltywizard@beige.party

        @benroyce @davoyager

        agreed.

        it's either this or pitchforks, folx, take your pick.

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        #11

        @saltywizard @davoyager

        unfortunately, you bring up the *next* level of stupidity out there:

        the cosplay revolutionary

        they want the pitchforks

        1. revolutions happen when people are hungry. if they aren't hungry, you get a few rebels who are quickly defeated, then used as an excuse by fascists to remove more rights

        2. an actual revolution is 1 million X suffering. then who wins might even be worse. but even with a good result, we preserve it BY VOTING

        why not just vote left now instead?

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          @davoyager

          the #Democrats do suck. it's not just #Fetterman. many go "aw shucks" and then speak for their special interest donors instead of the people

          but

          the Dems are also #AOC, #Mamdani, #Talarico, #Warren, etc

          so

          we show up in the #primaries and get 50 Mamdanis on the #ballot for the November #election

          if instead someone goes "Fetterman exists, therefore all Dems are the same as the #GOP" they are #trollfarm from the right working a divide and conquer angle, or they are a moron

          andrew@mastodon.furrow.meA This user is from outside of this forum
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          @benroyce @davoyager I’m guilty of #moron. DNC’s favoritism towards neoliberal status quo meat shields who represent their donors erodes my confidence in grassroots success. Maybe this will finally be the time in my life when there’s such overwhelming support for real progressives that we see an end to capital deciding our fate? Or maybe they’ll wait until Super Tuesday and install the beleaguered skeletal husk of Joe Biden again, then replace him with Gavin Newsom backed by Palantir & Anduril.

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            @saltywizard @davoyager

            unfortunately, you bring up the *next* level of stupidity out there:

            the cosplay revolutionary

            they want the pitchforks

            1. revolutions happen when people are hungry. if they aren't hungry, you get a few rebels who are quickly defeated, then used as an excuse by fascists to remove more rights

            2. an actual revolution is 1 million X suffering. then who wins might even be worse. but even with a good result, we preserve it BY VOTING

            why not just vote left now instead?

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            #13

            @benroyce @davoyager

            exactly.

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            • andrew@mastodon.furrow.meA andrew@mastodon.furrow.me

              @benroyce @davoyager I’m guilty of #moron. DNC’s favoritism towards neoliberal status quo meat shields who represent their donors erodes my confidence in grassroots success. Maybe this will finally be the time in my life when there’s such overwhelming support for real progressives that we see an end to capital deciding our fate? Or maybe they’ll wait until Super Tuesday and install the beleaguered skeletal husk of Joe Biden again, then replace him with Gavin Newsom backed by Palantir & Anduril.

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              #14

              @andrew @davoyager

              agreed

              the answer to your question is we mob the fucking primaries coming up soon and get real leftist candidates in there

              the problem is primary turnout is *atrocious*

              then we get 1 billion social media comments whining the dem candidates suck

              🤦

              just imagine if all that energy was instead spent just showing up in the fucking primaries

              and this is where we note that a lot of the whining energy out there is a purposeful trollfarm effort to suppress leftist vote turnout

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              • D davoyager@mastodon.social

                @christopherbrown Give Talarico another look. The idea is to defeat Cornyn . I believe Crockett couldn't do that in Texas. Also I love her work in the House and I think she should stay there for a while.

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                @davoyager I have no choice but to vote Talarico. Crockett did not win the nomination, voting GOP is not an option, sitting out is not an option.

                As @benroyce has been saying lean hard left, then vote for what you get. I voted for Crockett in the primary, but I’m not all wastey panty over her not winning.

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @mattdm @davoyager

                  right, but just to clarify:

                  when you post this is your intent

                  "both sides the same, don't vote"

                  thus helping MAGA, intentionally or unintentionally

                  or is it

                  "so replace corporatist dems with real leftists by showing up in the primaries"

                  please note:

                  i'm not accusing you of anything

                  i'm saying: when you post this, you need to finish the point of your post

                  otherwise you feed this sort of cynical hopeless whiny entitled perfectionist turd who only helps fascism

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                  #16

                  @benroyce @davoyager

                  The second one.

                  These guys suck. Vote them out, or vote in an overwhelming number of people who at least suck a little bit less so that they don't get to make all the decisions and feel all special.

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @andrew @davoyager

                    agreed

                    the answer to your question is we mob the fucking primaries coming up soon and get real leftist candidates in there

                    the problem is primary turnout is *atrocious*

                    then we get 1 billion social media comments whining the dem candidates suck

                    🤦

                    just imagine if all that energy was instead spent just showing up in the fucking primaries

                    and this is where we note that a lot of the whining energy out there is a purposeful trollfarm effort to suppress leftist vote turnout

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                    @benroyce @davoyager what’s really soul crushing is when you hear about a candidate running unopposed. How do we not have a database with good UI/UX that independents & newcomers seeking party support can find races where their only competition is some 1,000 year old okiedoke who hasn’t brought their best for decades?

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                    • mattdm@hachyderm.ioM mattdm@hachyderm.io

                      @benroyce @davoyager

                      The second one.

                      These guys suck. Vote them out, or vote in an overwhelming number of people who at least suck a little bit less so that they don't get to make all the decisions and feel all special.

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                      #18

                      @mattdm @davoyager

                      thank you

                      and help your own goal you just stated by always denoting that in posts that point out how much the democrats suck

                      "democrats suck"

                      1. "...therefore don't vote, and only help MAGA and fascism"

                      2. "...therefore vote in the primaries, to get real left candidates"

                      ALWAYS indicate #2 in your posts, so that #1 is not the effect of your posts

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                      • andrew@mastodon.furrow.meA andrew@mastodon.furrow.me

                        @benroyce @davoyager what’s really soul crushing is when you hear about a candidate running unopposed. How do we not have a database with good UI/UX that independents & newcomers seeking party support can find races where their only competition is some 1,000 year old okiedoke who hasn’t brought their best for decades?

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                        #19

                        @andrew @davoyager

                        we can build it. that's an important job, among many important jobs we have to do

                        but job #1 is we need to show the fuck up

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                        • saltywizard@beige.partyS saltywizard@beige.party

                          @benroyce @davoyager

                          agreed.

                          it's either this or pitchforks, folx, take your pick.

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                          @saltywizard @benroyce @davoyager Which is it? Pitchfork or pick? The former would be better for tossing out rotten old garbage, but the latter better for fossilized blockheads.

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @davoyager

                            the #Democrats do suck. it's not just #Fetterman. many go "aw shucks" and then speak for their special interest donors instead of the people

                            but

                            the Dems are also #AOC, #Mamdani, #Talarico, #Warren, etc

                            so

                            we show up in the #primaries and get 50 Mamdanis on the #ballot for the November #election

                            if instead someone goes "Fetterman exists, therefore all Dems are the same as the #GOP" they are #trollfarm from the right working a divide and conquer angle, or they are a moron

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                            @benroyce @davoyager so true. Contructive, not fatalistic. People suck, but some suck far less 🙂

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                            • log@mastodon.sdf.orgL log@mastodon.sdf.org

                              @saltywizard @benroyce @davoyager Which is it? Pitchfork or pick? The former would be better for tossing out rotten old garbage, but the latter better for fossilized blockheads.

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                              @log @saltywizard @davoyager

                              guillotine

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                @log @saltywizard @davoyager

                                guillotine

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                                @benroyce @saltywizard @davoyager That's a good way to get ahead of a governance crisis.

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @mattdm @davoyager

                                  thank you

                                  and help your own goal you just stated by always denoting that in posts that point out how much the democrats suck

                                  "democrats suck"

                                  1. "...therefore don't vote, and only help MAGA and fascism"

                                  2. "...therefore vote in the primaries, to get real left candidates"

                                  ALWAYS indicate #2 in your posts, so that #1 is not the effect of your posts

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                                  @benroyce @mattdm @davoyager #2, and it's the only reason I'm a registered Democrat: depending on the candidates, I might "throw away" my vote for a bona fide socialist or as close as I can find to one. Note: I did not do that last year and Harris and our Democratic Senator who was up would've won my state even if a pretty sizeable bunch of us had.

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @log @saltywizard @davoyager

                                    guillotine

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                                    @benroyce @log @saltywizard @davoyager

                                    This word is delightful even without the rest of the context of the conversation.

                                    What if... We just did workshops on how to build guillotines?

                                    Sorry, I saw the word and got a little excited.

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                                    • D davoyager@mastodon.social

                                      @benroyce This kind of bothsideism is what has gotten us in this situation in the first place. The only Dem I can think of who "sucks" is Fetterman. Name another one or give it a rest

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                                      @davoyager @benroyce Kyrsten Sinema?

                                      Oh, wait, she's gone. Wonder how that happened? She saw the polling data for her upcoming primary.

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                                      • kingtor@frontrange.coK kingtor@frontrange.co

                                        @benroyce @mattdm @davoyager #2, and it's the only reason I'm a registered Democrat: depending on the candidates, I might "throw away" my vote for a bona fide socialist or as close as I can find to one. Note: I did not do that last year and Harris and our Democratic Senator who was up would've won my state even if a pretty sizeable bunch of us had.

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                                        #27

                                        @kingtor @mattdm @davoyager

                                        🙏

                                        thank you

                                        there is zero shame in "i fucked up, but i won't fuck up again"

                                        we all fuck up in life

                                        there is plenty of shame in "i fucked up, and i'm doubling down, because i can't admit to myself i am not perfect. i never say or do anything wrong"

                                        getting rid of #trump, #MAGA, and #fascism depends upon millions of nonvoters admitting they fucked up, and showing the fuck up

                                        especially in the #primaries to get us real #left #candidates!

                                        #vote

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                                        • 401matthall@mastodon.xyz4 401matthall@mastodon.xyz

                                          @benroyce @log @saltywizard @davoyager

                                          This word is delightful even without the rest of the context of the conversation.

                                          What if... We just did workshops on how to build guillotines?

                                          Sorry, I saw the word and got a little excited.

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                                          #28

                                          @401matthall @log @saltywizard @davoyager

                                          😆

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