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" #Democrats deliver ‘stunning’ flip in New Hampshire special election, latest in series of 28 upsets"

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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @davoyager

    the #Democrats do suck. it's not just #Fetterman. many go "aw shucks" and then speak for their special interest donors instead of the people

    but

    the Dems are also #AOC, #Mamdani, #Talarico, #Warren, etc

    so

    we show up in the #primaries and get 50 Mamdanis on the #ballot for the November #election

    if instead someone goes "Fetterman exists, therefore all Dems are the same as the #GOP" they are #trollfarm from the right working a divide and conquer angle, or they are a moron

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    #4

    @benroyce @davoyager I’ve already seen two sets of people in Texas:

    1) They didn’t vote for Crockett. They failed us again. I won’t turn out in November.

    2) Talarico is a Fetterman. I won’t vote for him.

    Both failed strategies for improving our current situation, especially since TX MAGA cannot figure out which flaming shit bag they like, Cornyn (played racism for support) or Paxton (anti-trans and cuttting deal to drop out).

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    • D davoyager@mastodon.social

      @benroyce This kind of bothsideism is what has gotten us in this situation in the first place. The only Dem I can think of who "sucks" is Fetterman. Name another one or give it a rest

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      #5

      @davoyager @benroyce

      Here's four more!

      Link Preview Image
      The Democrats Who Voted Against the War Powers Resolution

      Trump "has so far acted within the authorities given to him by Congress through the War Powers Act of 1973," argued one Democratic lawmaker.

      favicon

      TIME (time.com)

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      • mattdm@hachyderm.ioM mattdm@hachyderm.io

        @davoyager @benroyce

        Here's four more!

        Link Preview Image
        The Democrats Who Voted Against the War Powers Resolution

        Trump "has so far acted within the authorities given to him by Congress through the War Powers Act of 1973," argued one Democratic lawmaker.

        favicon

        TIME (time.com)

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        #6

        @mattdm @benroyce
        There is room in the Democratic party for different points of view. It's our diversity that gives us strength. Purity tests will defeat us every time

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        • christopherbrown@mastodon.socialC christopherbrown@mastodon.social

          @benroyce @davoyager I’ve already seen two sets of people in Texas:

          1) They didn’t vote for Crockett. They failed us again. I won’t turn out in November.

          2) Talarico is a Fetterman. I won’t vote for him.

          Both failed strategies for improving our current situation, especially since TX MAGA cannot figure out which flaming shit bag they like, Cornyn (played racism for support) or Paxton (anti-trans and cuttting deal to drop out).

          benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #7

          @christopherbrown @davoyager

          such people are entitled morons helping fascism

          they don't even exist on the left

          oh yes, they think of themselves on the left. but they are not of the left:

          they do not have effective agency for leftist concerns and agendas

          what they have is psychological conditions of mindless cynicism, learned helplessness and toxic idealism

          or they are straight up agent provocateur MAGA putting leftist symbols on their profile then working a divide and conquer troll angle

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          • christopherbrown@mastodon.socialC christopherbrown@mastodon.social

            @benroyce @davoyager I’ve already seen two sets of people in Texas:

            1) They didn’t vote for Crockett. They failed us again. I won’t turn out in November.

            2) Talarico is a Fetterman. I won’t vote for him.

            Both failed strategies for improving our current situation, especially since TX MAGA cannot figure out which flaming shit bag they like, Cornyn (played racism for support) or Paxton (anti-trans and cuttting deal to drop out).

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            @christopherbrown Give Talarico another look. The idea is to defeat Cornyn . I believe Crockett couldn't do that in Texas. Also I love her work in the House and I think she should stay there for a while.

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            • mattdm@hachyderm.ioM mattdm@hachyderm.io

              @davoyager @benroyce

              Here's four more!

              Link Preview Image
              The Democrats Who Voted Against the War Powers Resolution

              Trump "has so far acted within the authorities given to him by Congress through the War Powers Act of 1973," argued one Democratic lawmaker.

              favicon

              TIME (time.com)

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              #9

              @mattdm @davoyager

              right, but just to clarify:

              when you post this is your intent

              "both sides the same, don't vote"

              thus helping MAGA, intentionally or unintentionally

              or is it

              "so replace corporatist dems with real leftists by showing up in the primaries"

              please note:

              i'm not accusing you of anything

              i'm saying: when you post this, you need to finish the point of your post

              otherwise you feed this sort of cynical hopeless whiny entitled perfectionist turd who only helps fascism

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                @davoyager

                the #Democrats do suck. it's not just #Fetterman. many go "aw shucks" and then speak for their special interest donors instead of the people

                but

                the Dems are also #AOC, #Mamdani, #Talarico, #Warren, etc

                so

                we show up in the #primaries and get 50 Mamdanis on the #ballot for the November #election

                if instead someone goes "Fetterman exists, therefore all Dems are the same as the #GOP" they are #trollfarm from the right working a divide and conquer angle, or they are a moron

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                #10

                @benroyce @davoyager

                agreed.

                it's either this or pitchforks, folx, take your pick.

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                • saltywizard@beige.partyS saltywizard@beige.party

                  @benroyce @davoyager

                  agreed.

                  it's either this or pitchforks, folx, take your pick.

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                  @saltywizard @davoyager

                  unfortunately, you bring up the *next* level of stupidity out there:

                  the cosplay revolutionary

                  they want the pitchforks

                  1. revolutions happen when people are hungry. if they aren't hungry, you get a few rebels who are quickly defeated, then used as an excuse by fascists to remove more rights

                  2. an actual revolution is 1 million X suffering. then who wins might even be worse. but even with a good result, we preserve it BY VOTING

                  why not just vote left now instead?

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @davoyager

                    the #Democrats do suck. it's not just #Fetterman. many go "aw shucks" and then speak for their special interest donors instead of the people

                    but

                    the Dems are also #AOC, #Mamdani, #Talarico, #Warren, etc

                    so

                    we show up in the #primaries and get 50 Mamdanis on the #ballot for the November #election

                    if instead someone goes "Fetterman exists, therefore all Dems are the same as the #GOP" they are #trollfarm from the right working a divide and conquer angle, or they are a moron

                    andrew@mastodon.furrow.meA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @benroyce @davoyager I’m guilty of #moron. DNC’s favoritism towards neoliberal status quo meat shields who represent their donors erodes my confidence in grassroots success. Maybe this will finally be the time in my life when there’s such overwhelming support for real progressives that we see an end to capital deciding our fate? Or maybe they’ll wait until Super Tuesday and install the beleaguered skeletal husk of Joe Biden again, then replace him with Gavin Newsom backed by Palantir & Anduril.

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @saltywizard @davoyager

                      unfortunately, you bring up the *next* level of stupidity out there:

                      the cosplay revolutionary

                      they want the pitchforks

                      1. revolutions happen when people are hungry. if they aren't hungry, you get a few rebels who are quickly defeated, then used as an excuse by fascists to remove more rights

                      2. an actual revolution is 1 million X suffering. then who wins might even be worse. but even with a good result, we preserve it BY VOTING

                      why not just vote left now instead?

                      saltywizard@beige.partyS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #13

                      @benroyce @davoyager

                      exactly.

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                      • andrew@mastodon.furrow.meA andrew@mastodon.furrow.me

                        @benroyce @davoyager I’m guilty of #moron. DNC’s favoritism towards neoliberal status quo meat shields who represent their donors erodes my confidence in grassroots success. Maybe this will finally be the time in my life when there’s such overwhelming support for real progressives that we see an end to capital deciding our fate? Or maybe they’ll wait until Super Tuesday and install the beleaguered skeletal husk of Joe Biden again, then replace him with Gavin Newsom backed by Palantir & Anduril.

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                        #14

                        @andrew @davoyager

                        agreed

                        the answer to your question is we mob the fucking primaries coming up soon and get real leftist candidates in there

                        the problem is primary turnout is *atrocious*

                        then we get 1 billion social media comments whining the dem candidates suck

                        🤦

                        just imagine if all that energy was instead spent just showing up in the fucking primaries

                        and this is where we note that a lot of the whining energy out there is a purposeful trollfarm effort to suppress leftist vote turnout

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                        • D davoyager@mastodon.social

                          @christopherbrown Give Talarico another look. The idea is to defeat Cornyn . I believe Crockett couldn't do that in Texas. Also I love her work in the House and I think she should stay there for a while.

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                          @davoyager I have no choice but to vote Talarico. Crockett did not win the nomination, voting GOP is not an option, sitting out is not an option.

                          As @benroyce has been saying lean hard left, then vote for what you get. I voted for Crockett in the primary, but I’m not all wastey panty over her not winning.

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @mattdm @davoyager

                            right, but just to clarify:

                            when you post this is your intent

                            "both sides the same, don't vote"

                            thus helping MAGA, intentionally or unintentionally

                            or is it

                            "so replace corporatist dems with real leftists by showing up in the primaries"

                            please note:

                            i'm not accusing you of anything

                            i'm saying: when you post this, you need to finish the point of your post

                            otherwise you feed this sort of cynical hopeless whiny entitled perfectionist turd who only helps fascism

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                            @benroyce @davoyager

                            The second one.

                            These guys suck. Vote them out, or vote in an overwhelming number of people who at least suck a little bit less so that they don't get to make all the decisions and feel all special.

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @andrew @davoyager

                              agreed

                              the answer to your question is we mob the fucking primaries coming up soon and get real leftist candidates in there

                              the problem is primary turnout is *atrocious*

                              then we get 1 billion social media comments whining the dem candidates suck

                              🤦

                              just imagine if all that energy was instead spent just showing up in the fucking primaries

                              and this is where we note that a lot of the whining energy out there is a purposeful trollfarm effort to suppress leftist vote turnout

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                              @benroyce @davoyager what’s really soul crushing is when you hear about a candidate running unopposed. How do we not have a database with good UI/UX that independents & newcomers seeking party support can find races where their only competition is some 1,000 year old okiedoke who hasn’t brought their best for decades?

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                              • mattdm@hachyderm.ioM mattdm@hachyderm.io

                                @benroyce @davoyager

                                The second one.

                                These guys suck. Vote them out, or vote in an overwhelming number of people who at least suck a little bit less so that they don't get to make all the decisions and feel all special.

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                                @mattdm @davoyager

                                thank you

                                and help your own goal you just stated by always denoting that in posts that point out how much the democrats suck

                                "democrats suck"

                                1. "...therefore don't vote, and only help MAGA and fascism"

                                2. "...therefore vote in the primaries, to get real left candidates"

                                ALWAYS indicate #2 in your posts, so that #1 is not the effect of your posts

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                                • andrew@mastodon.furrow.meA andrew@mastodon.furrow.me

                                  @benroyce @davoyager what’s really soul crushing is when you hear about a candidate running unopposed. How do we not have a database with good UI/UX that independents & newcomers seeking party support can find races where their only competition is some 1,000 year old okiedoke who hasn’t brought their best for decades?

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                                  @andrew @davoyager

                                  we can build it. that's an important job, among many important jobs we have to do

                                  but job #1 is we need to show the fuck up

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                                  • saltywizard@beige.partyS saltywizard@beige.party

                                    @benroyce @davoyager

                                    agreed.

                                    it's either this or pitchforks, folx, take your pick.

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                                    @saltywizard @benroyce @davoyager Which is it? Pitchfork or pick? The former would be better for tossing out rotten old garbage, but the latter better for fossilized blockheads.

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @davoyager

                                      the #Democrats do suck. it's not just #Fetterman. many go "aw shucks" and then speak for their special interest donors instead of the people

                                      but

                                      the Dems are also #AOC, #Mamdani, #Talarico, #Warren, etc

                                      so

                                      we show up in the #primaries and get 50 Mamdanis on the #ballot for the November #election

                                      if instead someone goes "Fetterman exists, therefore all Dems are the same as the #GOP" they are #trollfarm from the right working a divide and conquer angle, or they are a moron

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                                      @benroyce @davoyager so true. Contructive, not fatalistic. People suck, but some suck far less 🙂

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                                      • log@mastodon.sdf.orgL log@mastodon.sdf.org

                                        @saltywizard @benroyce @davoyager Which is it? Pitchfork or pick? The former would be better for tossing out rotten old garbage, but the latter better for fossilized blockheads.

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                                        @log @saltywizard @davoyager

                                        guillotine

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          @log @saltywizard @davoyager

                                          guillotine

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                                          #23

                                          @benroyce @saltywizard @davoyager That's a good way to get ahead of a governance crisis.

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