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Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

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  • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

    Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

    Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

    And it's law.

    Who knew.

    Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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    @tinker You don’t say …

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    Indiana pi bill - Wikipedia

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    (en.wikipedia.org)

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    • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

      Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

      Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

      And it's law.

      Who knew.

      Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

      mdreid@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      @tinker @darkuncle An amateur mathematician, Edward Goodwin, attempted to pass legislation to define π as 3.2 in Indiana in 1897 so they could make a proof work: https://www.forbes.com/sites/kionasmith/2018/02/05/indianas-state-legislature-once-tried-to-legislate-the-value-of-pi/

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      • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

        Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

        Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

        And it's law.

        Who knew.

        Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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        @tinker The goal seems clear to me here. Websites that allow VPN connections can be held liable.

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        • mcg@social.lolM mcg@social.lol

          @tinker The goal seems clear to me here. Websites that allow VPN connections can be held liable.

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          @mcg - That's certainly the goal.

          How does the website know?
          How can the state know?

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          • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

            Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

            Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

            And it's law.

            Who knew.

            Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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            This is my apology to any website, based in Utah, that I may visit at any time I may be using a VPN.

            If I know/knew you were/are based there - I would not visit - thereby saving you the law breaking results - and further with no visits/clicks potentially putting you out of business.

            #ProbableResults

            @tinker

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            • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

              @mcg - That's certainly the goal.

              How does the website know?
              How can the state know?

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              @tinker @mcg A Utah cop uses a VPN into Colorado, then visits every website. The ones that don't try to verify the age of the Utah person get shaken down under this law. Every website in the world would have to include a "cookie law"-type popup asking "Are you physically located within the territorial jurisdiction of the US state of Utah?" or face some cold Utah mountain justice.

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              • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

                Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

                Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

                And it's law.

                Who knew.

                Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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                @tinker the closer a society is to collapse, the more irrational its policy becomes

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                • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

                  Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

                  Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

                  And it's law.

                  Who knew.

                  Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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                  @tinker how about journalists, lawyers, people in research... people who would be vulnerable without VPN?

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                  • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

                    Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

                    Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

                    And it's law.

                    Who knew.

                    Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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                    @tinker They police so much of what is reality

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                    • log@mastodon.sdf.orgL log@mastodon.sdf.org

                      @tinker @mcg A Utah cop uses a VPN into Colorado, then visits every website. The ones that don't try to verify the age of the Utah person get shaken down under this law. Every website in the world would have to include a "cookie law"-type popup asking "Are you physically located within the territorial jurisdiction of the US state of Utah?" or face some cold Utah mountain justice.

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                      @log @tinker @mcg

                      "face some cold Utah mountain justice."

                      Which is what exactly for a website hosted in Singapore or Amsterdam? A stern letter? Is a Utah sheriff going to hop on a plane?

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                      • troy_frizzell@mstdn.socialT troy_frizzell@mstdn.social

                        @log @tinker @mcg

                        "face some cold Utah mountain justice."

                        Which is what exactly for a website hosted in Singapore or Amsterdam? A stern letter? Is a Utah sheriff going to hop on a plane?

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                        @troy_frizzell @tinker @mcg I'm not certain, exactly, but I think it may have something to do with involuntarily becoming someone's multilevel marketing downline.

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                        • troy_frizzell@mstdn.socialT troy_frizzell@mstdn.social

                          @log @tinker @mcg

                          "face some cold Utah mountain justice."

                          Which is what exactly for a website hosted in Singapore or Amsterdam? A stern letter? Is a Utah sheriff going to hop on a plane?

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                          @troy_frizzell @log @tinker @mcg Pigs don't do actual work, so no. (I understand this was a rhetorical question, but I needed to say this lol)

                          If pigs did actual work the world would be a better place.

                          They don't.
                          The world is worse off with them in it.

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                          • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

                            Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

                            Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

                            And it's law.

                            Who knew.

                            Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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                            @tinker I can't state this enough. Fuck the government.

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                            • nosirrahsec@infosec.exchangeN nosirrahsec@infosec.exchange

                              @troy_frizzell @log @tinker @mcg Pigs don't do actual work, so no. (I understand this was a rhetorical question, but I needed to say this lol)

                              If pigs did actual work the world would be a better place.

                              They don't.
                              The world is worse off with them in it.

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                              @NosirrahSec They probably wouldn't even use a warm body for this. They'd just hire a barely-supervised robot to traverse the web, snap screenshots, and send out threatening letters.

                              Also, if cops tried to do real work, they'd just do a bodge job of it. If they had any aptitude for being constructive, they could have done that instead of copping.

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                              • log@mastodon.sdf.orgL log@mastodon.sdf.org

                                @NosirrahSec They probably wouldn't even use a warm body for this. They'd just hire a barely-supervised robot to traverse the web, snap screenshots, and send out threatening letters.

                                Also, if cops tried to do real work, they'd just do a bodge job of it. If they had any aptitude for being constructive, they could have done that instead of copping.

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                                @log exaaaaactly!

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                                • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

                                  Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

                                  Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

                                  And it's law.

                                  Who knew.

                                  Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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                                  Why wouldn't they pretend to be clueless idiots? You keep falling for it over and over again. You and everybody else.

                                  These people know exactly what they're doing.
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                                  • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

                                    Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

                                    Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

                                    And it's law.

                                    Who knew.

                                    Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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                                    @tinker Welcome to religious legislature, this is the problem in America.

                                    And morons state, "it's because [they're] allowed to believe in whatever religion they want." But it says congress shall pass no law restricting the religious beliefs of others, roughly, which is where putting the word god everywhere got REALLY toxic and un-American.

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                                    • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

                                      Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

                                      Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

                                      And it's law.

                                      Who knew.

                                      Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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                                      #20

                                      @tinker Why does everyone think this isn't already federal policy?

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                                      • libertyoftheforest0@mastodon.socialL libertyoftheforest0@mastodon.social

                                        @tinker I can't state this enough. Fuck the government.

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                                        @libertyoftheforest0 @tinker And that's precisely what they want, for people to mistrust governments and all politicians, when in reality there are some who are truly interested in everyone's wellbeing.

                                        Yeah most of them suck big time, that's why all elections matter, so we can help raise the good ones and sink the bastards.

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                                        • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

                                          Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

                                          Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

                                          And it's law.

                                          Who knew.

                                          Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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                                          @tinker @alice Didn’t Indiana (I think) pass a law declaring pi to be equal to 4 once? (IIRC, it may have been a King Canute-style rhetorical measure demonstrating that the law can only do so much.)

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