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Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

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  • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

    Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

    Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

    And it's law.

    Who knew.

    Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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    @tinker how about journalists, lawyers, people in research... people who would be vulnerable without VPN?

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    • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

      Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

      Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

      And it's law.

      Who knew.

      Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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      @tinker They police so much of what is reality

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      • log@mastodon.sdf.orgL log@mastodon.sdf.org

        @tinker @mcg A Utah cop uses a VPN into Colorado, then visits every website. The ones that don't try to verify the age of the Utah person get shaken down under this law. Every website in the world would have to include a "cookie law"-type popup asking "Are you physically located within the territorial jurisdiction of the US state of Utah?" or face some cold Utah mountain justice.

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        @log @tinker @mcg

        "face some cold Utah mountain justice."

        Which is what exactly for a website hosted in Singapore or Amsterdam? A stern letter? Is a Utah sheriff going to hop on a plane?

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        • troy_frizzell@mstdn.socialT troy_frizzell@mstdn.social

          @log @tinker @mcg

          "face some cold Utah mountain justice."

          Which is what exactly for a website hosted in Singapore or Amsterdam? A stern letter? Is a Utah sheriff going to hop on a plane?

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          @troy_frizzell @tinker @mcg I'm not certain, exactly, but I think it may have something to do with involuntarily becoming someone's multilevel marketing downline.

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          • troy_frizzell@mstdn.socialT troy_frizzell@mstdn.social

            @log @tinker @mcg

            "face some cold Utah mountain justice."

            Which is what exactly for a website hosted in Singapore or Amsterdam? A stern letter? Is a Utah sheriff going to hop on a plane?

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            @troy_frizzell @log @tinker @mcg Pigs don't do actual work, so no. (I understand this was a rhetorical question, but I needed to say this lol)

            If pigs did actual work the world would be a better place.

            They don't.
            The world is worse off with them in it.

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            • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

              Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

              Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

              And it's law.

              Who knew.

              Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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              #15

              @tinker I can't state this enough. Fuck the government.

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              • nosirrahsec@infosec.exchangeN nosirrahsec@infosec.exchange

                @troy_frizzell @log @tinker @mcg Pigs don't do actual work, so no. (I understand this was a rhetorical question, but I needed to say this lol)

                If pigs did actual work the world would be a better place.

                They don't.
                The world is worse off with them in it.

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                #16

                @NosirrahSec They probably wouldn't even use a warm body for this. They'd just hire a barely-supervised robot to traverse the web, snap screenshots, and send out threatening letters.

                Also, if cops tried to do real work, they'd just do a bodge job of it. If they had any aptitude for being constructive, they could have done that instead of copping.

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                • log@mastodon.sdf.orgL log@mastodon.sdf.org

                  @NosirrahSec They probably wouldn't even use a warm body for this. They'd just hire a barely-supervised robot to traverse the web, snap screenshots, and send out threatening letters.

                  Also, if cops tried to do real work, they'd just do a bodge job of it. If they had any aptitude for being constructive, they could have done that instead of copping.

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                  #17

                  @log exaaaaactly!

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                  • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

                    Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

                    Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

                    And it's law.

                    Who knew.

                    Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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                    Why wouldn't they pretend to be clueless idiots? You keep falling for it over and over again. You and everybody else.

                    These people know exactly what they're doing.
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                    • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

                      Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

                      Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

                      And it's law.

                      Who knew.

                      Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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                      @tinker Welcome to religious legislature, this is the problem in America.

                      And morons state, "it's because [they're] allowed to believe in whatever religion they want." But it says congress shall pass no law restricting the religious beliefs of others, roughly, which is where putting the word god everywhere got REALLY toxic and un-American.

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                      • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

                        Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

                        Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

                        And it's law.

                        Who knew.

                        Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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                        #20

                        @tinker Why does everyone think this isn't already federal policy?

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                        • libertyoftheforest0@mastodon.socialL libertyoftheforest0@mastodon.social

                          @tinker I can't state this enough. Fuck the government.

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                          @libertyoftheforest0 @tinker And that's precisely what they want, for people to mistrust governments and all politicians, when in reality there are some who are truly interested in everyone's wellbeing.

                          Yeah most of them suck big time, that's why all elections matter, so we can help raise the good ones and sink the bastards.

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                          • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

                            Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

                            Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

                            And it's law.

                            Who knew.

                            Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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                            @tinker @alice Didn’t Indiana (I think) pass a law declaring pi to be equal to 4 once? (IIRC, it may have been a King Canute-style rhetorical measure demonstrating that the law can only do so much.)

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                            • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

                              Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

                              Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

                              And it's law.

                              Who knew.

                              Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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                              @tinker authoritarianism sees no issues here

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                              • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

                                Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

                                Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

                                And it's law.

                                Who knew.

                                Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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                                @tinker @patrickhadfield these are the kinds of people that would legislate against gravity in order to prevent children from hurting themselves by falling. They shouldn’t be in charge of anything more complicated than a broom.

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                                • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

                                  Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

                                  Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

                                  And it's law.

                                  Who knew.

                                  Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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                                  frutigeraero00@mastodon.social
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                                  @tinker you know when age verification started only on california and then extended on the rest of america? This is the same. They are just testing it in one state for later extend it on the rest of the country.

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                                  • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

                                    Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

                                    Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

                                    And it's law.

                                    Who knew.

                                    Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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                                    @tinker
                                    Everyone start posting "Fuck Trump" and "86 47" in their Amazon ratings. Get Jeff fined.

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                                    • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

                                      Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

                                      Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

                                      And it's law.

                                      Who knew.

                                      Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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                                      da_kink@defcon.social
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                                      #27

                                      @tinker forgive if I'm coming off as unknowing, as I'm not a lawyer or an American. But isn't this superceded by section 230 of the communications act?

                                      Or would this be part of that exclusion that states can have complimentary oversight?

                                      Aside from this all being a technological nightmare of stupidity of course.

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                                      • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

                                        Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

                                        Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

                                        And it's law.

                                        Who knew.

                                        Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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                                        #28

                                        @tinker Seeing as completely disinformed and stupid many technology laws are, I often wonder if this is also true for laws on things I don’t know (like farming). But maybe these laws had more time to evolve in something better as it is a field that existed forever.

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                                        • D da_kink@defcon.social

                                          @tinker forgive if I'm coming off as unknowing, as I'm not a lawyer or an American. But isn't this superceded by section 230 of the communications act?

                                          Or would this be part of that exclusion that states can have complimentary oversight?

                                          Aside from this all being a technological nightmare of stupidity of course.

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                                          @da_kink - IANAL but its not unheard of for legislatures to pass contradictory laws or laws that are already superseded by others or even unconstitutional. Thats up to the courts to decide afterwards. So, your reasoning might be a challenge that is brought up now that its passed.

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