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Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

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  • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

    Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

    Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

    And it's law.

    Who knew.

    Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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    @tinker I can't state this enough. Fuck the government.

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    • nosirrahsec@infosec.exchangeN nosirrahsec@infosec.exchange

      @troy_frizzell @log @tinker @mcg Pigs don't do actual work, so no. (I understand this was a rhetorical question, but I needed to say this lol)

      If pigs did actual work the world would be a better place.

      They don't.
      The world is worse off with them in it.

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      @NosirrahSec They probably wouldn't even use a warm body for this. They'd just hire a barely-supervised robot to traverse the web, snap screenshots, and send out threatening letters.

      Also, if cops tried to do real work, they'd just do a bodge job of it. If they had any aptitude for being constructive, they could have done that instead of copping.

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      • log@mastodon.sdf.orgL log@mastodon.sdf.org

        @NosirrahSec They probably wouldn't even use a warm body for this. They'd just hire a barely-supervised robot to traverse the web, snap screenshots, and send out threatening letters.

        Also, if cops tried to do real work, they'd just do a bodge job of it. If they had any aptitude for being constructive, they could have done that instead of copping.

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        @log exaaaaactly!

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        • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

          Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

          Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

          And it's law.

          Who knew.

          Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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          Why wouldn't they pretend to be clueless idiots? You keep falling for it over and over again. You and everybody else.

          These people know exactly what they're doing.
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          • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

            Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

            Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

            And it's law.

            Who knew.

            Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

            mage_of_chaos@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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            @tinker Welcome to religious legislature, this is the problem in America.

            And morons state, "it's because [they're] allowed to believe in whatever religion they want." But it says congress shall pass no law restricting the religious beliefs of others, roughly, which is where putting the word god everywhere got REALLY toxic and un-American.

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            • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

              Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

              Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

              And it's law.

              Who knew.

              Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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              #20

              @tinker Why does everyone think this isn't already federal policy?

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              • libertyoftheforest0@mastodon.socialL libertyoftheforest0@mastodon.social

                @tinker I can't state this enough. Fuck the government.

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                #21

                @libertyoftheforest0 @tinker And that's precisely what they want, for people to mistrust governments and all politicians, when in reality there are some who are truly interested in everyone's wellbeing.

                Yeah most of them suck big time, that's why all elections matter, so we can help raise the good ones and sink the bastards.

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                • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

                  Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

                  Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

                  And it's law.

                  Who knew.

                  Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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                  @tinker @alice Didn’t Indiana (I think) pass a law declaring pi to be equal to 4 once? (IIRC, it may have been a King Canute-style rhetorical measure demonstrating that the law can only do so much.)

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                  • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

                    Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

                    Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

                    And it's law.

                    Who knew.

                    Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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                    #23

                    @tinker authoritarianism sees no issues here

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                    • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

                      Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

                      Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

                      And it's law.

                      Who knew.

                      Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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                      @tinker @patrickhadfield these are the kinds of people that would legislate against gravity in order to prevent children from hurting themselves by falling. They shouldn’t be in charge of anything more complicated than a broom.

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                      • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

                        Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

                        Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

                        And it's law.

                        Who knew.

                        Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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                        @tinker you know when age verification started only on california and then extended on the rest of america? This is the same. They are just testing it in one state for later extend it on the rest of the country.

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                        • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

                          Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

                          Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

                          And it's law.

                          Who knew.

                          Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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                          @tinker
                          Everyone start posting "Fuck Trump" and "86 47" in their Amazon ratings. Get Jeff fined.

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                          • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

                            Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

                            Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

                            And it's law.

                            Who knew.

                            Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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                            da_kink@defcon.social
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                            @tinker forgive if I'm coming off as unknowing, as I'm not a lawyer or an American. But isn't this superceded by section 230 of the communications act?

                            Or would this be part of that exclusion that states can have complimentary oversight?

                            Aside from this all being a technological nightmare of stupidity of course.

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                            • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

                              Did you know you can pass a bill that states 1 + 1 = 3 ?

                              Like. Your legislature can propose, vote, and pass a bill that doesn't follow the rules of math, science, etc. Representatives don't have to understand tech, or numbers, or computer protocols. Or really anything. It's just words on paper (or a screen) that more than half of their body voted for.

                              And it's law.

                              Who knew.

                              Anyways, here's a fun article to read: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/utah-becomes-first-us-state-to-target-vpn-use-with-age-verification-law

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                              @tinker Seeing as completely disinformed and stupid many technology laws are, I often wonder if this is also true for laws on things I don’t know (like farming). But maybe these laws had more time to evolve in something better as it is a field that existed forever.

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                              • D da_kink@defcon.social

                                @tinker forgive if I'm coming off as unknowing, as I'm not a lawyer or an American. But isn't this superceded by section 230 of the communications act?

                                Or would this be part of that exclusion that states can have complimentary oversight?

                                Aside from this all being a technological nightmare of stupidity of course.

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                                @da_kink - IANAL but its not unheard of for legislatures to pass contradictory laws or laws that are already superseded by others or even unconstitutional. Thats up to the courts to decide afterwards. So, your reasoning might be a challenge that is brought up now that its passed.

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                                • F frutigeraero00@mastodon.social

                                  @tinker you know when age verification started only on california and then extended on the rest of america? This is the same. They are just testing it in one state for later extend it on the rest of the country.

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                                  @FrutigerAero00 - Seemsit

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                                    @tinker
                                    I'm not doing your legal research for you, it's encompassed under U.S.C.A. and U.S.C.C. in multiple federal/supreme court rulings and legislative passed bills AKA actions, and several other statutes. You don't understand how law is written if you think it all stays within one section of law.
                                    Any crime that is considered a crime in person is considered a crime on the internet, doing it online doesn't make it any less of a crime. Much like line splicing and phone port outs.
                                    Piracy!

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                                      @tinker Basically people who use VPNs for evasive reasons to avoid what kind of agencies sniffing around for dirty laundry?

                                      AKA spoofing locations for monetary reasons.... Feds aren't fans of that.

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                                        @tinker On a side note did you know states can get in trouble for tax and welfare laundering?

                                        Or who gets write offs for allocation of things like food stamps and cash aid or foster grants?

                                        Or like section 8 housing for families as opposed to section 8 of family laws, rules and procedures?

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                                        • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

                                          @mcg - That's certainly the goal.

                                          How does the website know?
                                          How can the state know?

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                                          @tinker VPN’s have IP ranges that can be blocked.

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