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Nice to see a Mastodon shout-out on The Daily Show last night, thanks to @eff Executive Director Cindy Cohn!

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  • andypiper@macaw.socialA andypiper@macaw.social

    Nice to see a Mastodon shout-out on The Daily Show last night, thanks to @eff Executive Director Cindy Cohn!

    It's a longer segment, with some interesting nuance around social media and censorship later in the conversation.

    (disclosure: I am an EFF Member / sustaining donor)

    YouTube link (I don't think there's a Peertube version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkC1aK7jfLo

    _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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    @andypiper @eff this is awesome!

    for people that want to skip to the part where Cohn talks about Mastodon, it starts at 20:27

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    • andypiper@macaw.socialA andypiper@macaw.social

      Nice to see a Mastodon shout-out on The Daily Show last night, thanks to @eff Executive Director Cindy Cohn!

      It's a longer segment, with some interesting nuance around social media and censorship later in the conversation.

      (disclosure: I am an EFF Member / sustaining donor)

      YouTube link (I don't think there's a Peertube version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkC1aK7jfLo

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      @andypiper @eff OMG, at the end when she says "this was fun" and Stewart is kinda shocked....ahahahahahah

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      • andypiper@macaw.socialA andypiper@macaw.social

        Nice to see a Mastodon shout-out on The Daily Show last night, thanks to @eff Executive Director Cindy Cohn!

        It's a longer segment, with some interesting nuance around social media and censorship later in the conversation.

        (disclosure: I am an EFF Member / sustaining donor)

        YouTube link (I don't think there's a Peertube version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkC1aK7jfLo

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        @andypiper @eff “[Social networks] are not free speech, they are algorithmic speech, they are processed speech, kind of like doritos are food,” that’s a great point!

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        • andypiper@macaw.socialA andypiper@macaw.social

          Nice to see a Mastodon shout-out on The Daily Show last night, thanks to @eff Executive Director Cindy Cohn!

          It's a longer segment, with some interesting nuance around social media and censorship later in the conversation.

          (disclosure: I am an EFF Member / sustaining donor)

          YouTube link (I don't think there's a Peertube version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkC1aK7jfLo

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          @andypiper @eff Great interview. I agree with Jon Stewart, there is no free speech on corporate social media platforms.

          Using Facebook or X is like watching a film produced in North Korea. You just get whatever Zuckerberg or Musk wants you to see. They kick you out for any reason they choose, they throttle popular opinions and push extremist ones instead.

          And for that reason, I don't buy the argument that regulating these businesses is censorship. Those platforms *are* censorship..

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          • txtx@mastodon.socialT txtx@mastodon.social

            @andypiper @eff Great interview. I agree with Jon Stewart, there is no free speech on corporate social media platforms.

            Using Facebook or X is like watching a film produced in North Korea. You just get whatever Zuckerberg or Musk wants you to see. They kick you out for any reason they choose, they throttle popular opinions and push extremist ones instead.

            And for that reason, I don't buy the argument that regulating these businesses is censorship. Those platforms *are* censorship..

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            @andypiper @eff ..the EFF seems to have an American libertarian standpoint here, which seems kind of outdated. It doesn't work.

            I can't sue an anonymous user in some random country because they posted something harmful on X. I can't sue Russian trolls. I can't realistically sue meta or x.

            Moving to another platform like Mastodon is ok, but that's shifting the burden to users.

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            • txtx@mastodon.socialT txtx@mastodon.social

              @andypiper @eff ..the EFF seems to have an American libertarian standpoint here, which seems kind of outdated. It doesn't work.

              I can't sue an anonymous user in some random country because they posted something harmful on X. I can't sue Russian trolls. I can't realistically sue meta or x.

              Moving to another platform like Mastodon is ok, but that's shifting the burden to users.

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              @andypiper @eff I'd like to see the EU ban foreign corporate social media platforms, period. We did it for television and print — there are laws against majority foreign ownership of media in most EU countries. We need to do the same to meta and x and TikTok.

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              • andypiper@macaw.socialA andypiper@macaw.social

                Nice to see a Mastodon shout-out on The Daily Show last night, thanks to @eff Executive Director Cindy Cohn!

                It's a longer segment, with some interesting nuance around social media and censorship later in the conversation.

                (disclosure: I am an EFF Member / sustaining donor)

                YouTube link (I don't think there's a Peertube version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkC1aK7jfLo

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                @andypiper @eff my account got suspended by Mastodon few days ago because of only using 2 words about 2 nationality 🤣🤣. Freedom at social networking? No chance

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                • txtx@mastodon.socialT txtx@mastodon.social

                  @andypiper @eff I'd like to see the EU ban foreign corporate social media platforms, period. We did it for television and print — there are laws against majority foreign ownership of media in most EU countries. We need to do the same to meta and x and TikTok.

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                  @txtx I agree that @eff has a US focus; I'm also a member of @openrightsgroup here in the UK, and support similar causes of citizen rights in the EU as well.

                  I appreciated the mention of alternatives (Mastodon!) in this interview.

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                  • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

                    @andypiper @eff my account got suspended by Mastodon few days ago because of only using 2 words about 2 nationality 🤣🤣. Freedom at social networking? No chance

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                    @GOKUSHRM @andypiper @eff If you have your own instance, or you're on an instance that matches you, you can't be suspended. You can only be suspended if you've registered on an instance who have policies that they deem you don't follow. Suspension is instance specific, not global.

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                    • andypiper@macaw.socialA andypiper@macaw.social

                      @txtx I agree that @eff has a US focus; I'm also a member of @openrightsgroup here in the UK, and support similar causes of citizen rights in the EU as well.

                      I appreciated the mention of alternatives (Mastodon!) in this interview.

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                      @andypiper @txtx @eff @openrightsgroup

                      Here's an example of @eff taking on an issue with global reach:

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                      Indymedia Server Takedown

                      Updated August 2005 » EFF press release about unsealed documents Aug 2 2005 On October 7 2004 more than 20 Independent Media Center (IMC) websites and other Internet services were taken offline pursuant to a Commissioner's Subpoena. The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) represented the interests...

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                      Electronic Frontier Foundation (www.eff.org)

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                      • marcusxms@helvede.netM marcusxms@helvede.net

                        @GOKUSHRM @andypiper @eff If you have your own instance, or you're on an instance that matches you, you can't be suspended. You can only be suspended if you've registered on an instance who have policies that they deem you don't follow. Suspension is instance specific, not global.

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                        @marcusxms @andypiper @eff so I need to selfhost my own instance to avoid suspense?

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                        • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

                          @marcusxms @andypiper @eff so I need to selfhost my own instance to avoid suspense?

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                          @GOKUSHRM @marcusxms @andypiper @eff Or communicate with the staff, follow the instance's rules or chose another instance that is a better fit

                          SO many options!

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                          • andypiper@macaw.socialA andypiper@macaw.social

                            Nice to see a Mastodon shout-out on The Daily Show last night, thanks to @eff Executive Director Cindy Cohn!

                            It's a longer segment, with some interesting nuance around social media and censorship later in the conversation.

                            (disclosure: I am an EFF Member / sustaining donor)

                            YouTube link (I don't think there's a Peertube version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkC1aK7jfLo

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                            @andypiper @eff thanks for sharing this link 🤓🤓🤓

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                            • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                              @GOKUSHRM @marcusxms @andypiper @eff Or communicate with the staff, follow the instance's rules or chose another instance that is a better fit

                              SO many options!

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                              @stux @marcusxms @andypiper @eff u may change the instance but u can't change ur views. So problem still the same.

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                              • andypiper@macaw.socialA andypiper@macaw.social

                                Nice to see a Mastodon shout-out on The Daily Show last night, thanks to @eff Executive Director Cindy Cohn!

                                It's a longer segment, with some interesting nuance around social media and censorship later in the conversation.

                                (disclosure: I am an EFF Member / sustaining donor)

                                YouTube link (I don't think there's a Peertube version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkC1aK7jfLo

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                                @andypiper @eff Did she mention that the more you toot the better you feel?

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                                • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

                                  @stux @marcusxms @andypiper @eff u may change the instance but u can't change ur views. So problem still the same.

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                                  @GOKUSHRM @marcusxms @andypiper @eff I’m not sure what problem you are referring too

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    @andypiper @eff this is awesome!

                                    for people that want to skip to the part where Cohn talks about Mastodon, it starts at 20:27

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                                    @_elena @andypiper Neat!

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                                    • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                      @GOKUSHRM @marcusxms @andypiper @eff I’m not sure what problem you are referring too

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                                      @stux @marcusxms @andypiper @eff where is freedom when u have to obey the rules

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                                      • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

                                        @stux @marcusxms @andypiper @eff where is freedom when u have to obey the rules

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                                        @GOKUSHRM @marcusxms @andypiper @eff Why can’t freedom exist within the boundaries of the rules?

                                        Does your freedom has to come at the expense of someone else?

                                        Respect is more important than saying whatever the heck you want

                                        It’s not that hard

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                                        • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                          @GOKUSHRM @marcusxms @andypiper @eff Why can’t freedom exist within the boundaries of the rules?

                                          Does your freedom has to come at the expense of someone else?

                                          Respect is more important than saying whatever the heck you want

                                          It’s not that hard

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                                          @stux @marcusxms @andypiper @eff if ur views hurt someone that doesn't mean u don't respect them.

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