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Nice to see a Mastodon shout-out on The Daily Show last night, thanks to @eff Executive Director Cindy Cohn!

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  • andypiper@macaw.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
    andypiper@macaw.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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    Nice to see a Mastodon shout-out on The Daily Show last night, thanks to @eff Executive Director Cindy Cohn!

    It's a longer segment, with some interesting nuance around social media and censorship later in the conversation.

    (disclosure: I am an EFF Member / sustaining donor)

    YouTube link (I don't think there's a Peertube version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkC1aK7jfLo

    _elena@mastodon.social_ kristinhenry@vis.socialK zoul@boskovice.socialZ txtx@mastodon.socialT gokushrm@mastodon.socialG 12 Replies Last reply
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    • andypiper@macaw.socialA andypiper@macaw.social

      Nice to see a Mastodon shout-out on The Daily Show last night, thanks to @eff Executive Director Cindy Cohn!

      It's a longer segment, with some interesting nuance around social media and censorship later in the conversation.

      (disclosure: I am an EFF Member / sustaining donor)

      YouTube link (I don't think there's a Peertube version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkC1aK7jfLo

      _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
      _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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      @andypiper @eff this is awesome!

      for people that want to skip to the part where Cohn talks about Mastodon, it starts at 20:27

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      • andypiper@macaw.socialA andypiper@macaw.social

        Nice to see a Mastodon shout-out on The Daily Show last night, thanks to @eff Executive Director Cindy Cohn!

        It's a longer segment, with some interesting nuance around social media and censorship later in the conversation.

        (disclosure: I am an EFF Member / sustaining donor)

        YouTube link (I don't think there's a Peertube version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkC1aK7jfLo

        kristinhenry@vis.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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        @andypiper @eff OMG, at the end when she says "this was fun" and Stewart is kinda shocked....ahahahahahah

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        • andypiper@macaw.socialA andypiper@macaw.social

          Nice to see a Mastodon shout-out on The Daily Show last night, thanks to @eff Executive Director Cindy Cohn!

          It's a longer segment, with some interesting nuance around social media and censorship later in the conversation.

          (disclosure: I am an EFF Member / sustaining donor)

          YouTube link (I don't think there's a Peertube version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkC1aK7jfLo

          zoul@boskovice.socialZ This user is from outside of this forum
          zoul@boskovice.socialZ This user is from outside of this forum
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          @andypiper @eff “[Social networks] are not free speech, they are algorithmic speech, they are processed speech, kind of like doritos are food,” that’s a great point!

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          • andypiper@macaw.socialA andypiper@macaw.social

            Nice to see a Mastodon shout-out on The Daily Show last night, thanks to @eff Executive Director Cindy Cohn!

            It's a longer segment, with some interesting nuance around social media and censorship later in the conversation.

            (disclosure: I am an EFF Member / sustaining donor)

            YouTube link (I don't think there's a Peertube version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkC1aK7jfLo

            txtx@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
            txtx@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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            @andypiper @eff Great interview. I agree with Jon Stewart, there is no free speech on corporate social media platforms.

            Using Facebook or X is like watching a film produced in North Korea. You just get whatever Zuckerberg or Musk wants you to see. They kick you out for any reason they choose, they throttle popular opinions and push extremist ones instead.

            And for that reason, I don't buy the argument that regulating these businesses is censorship. Those platforms *are* censorship..

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            • txtx@mastodon.socialT txtx@mastodon.social

              @andypiper @eff Great interview. I agree with Jon Stewart, there is no free speech on corporate social media platforms.

              Using Facebook or X is like watching a film produced in North Korea. You just get whatever Zuckerberg or Musk wants you to see. They kick you out for any reason they choose, they throttle popular opinions and push extremist ones instead.

              And for that reason, I don't buy the argument that regulating these businesses is censorship. Those platforms *are* censorship..

              txtx@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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              @andypiper @eff ..the EFF seems to have an American libertarian standpoint here, which seems kind of outdated. It doesn't work.

              I can't sue an anonymous user in some random country because they posted something harmful on X. I can't sue Russian trolls. I can't realistically sue meta or x.

              Moving to another platform like Mastodon is ok, but that's shifting the burden to users.

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              • txtx@mastodon.socialT txtx@mastodon.social

                @andypiper @eff ..the EFF seems to have an American libertarian standpoint here, which seems kind of outdated. It doesn't work.

                I can't sue an anonymous user in some random country because they posted something harmful on X. I can't sue Russian trolls. I can't realistically sue meta or x.

                Moving to another platform like Mastodon is ok, but that's shifting the burden to users.

                txtx@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                @andypiper @eff I'd like to see the EU ban foreign corporate social media platforms, period. We did it for television and print — there are laws against majority foreign ownership of media in most EU countries. We need to do the same to meta and x and TikTok.

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                • andypiper@macaw.socialA andypiper@macaw.social

                  Nice to see a Mastodon shout-out on The Daily Show last night, thanks to @eff Executive Director Cindy Cohn!

                  It's a longer segment, with some interesting nuance around social media and censorship later in the conversation.

                  (disclosure: I am an EFF Member / sustaining donor)

                  YouTube link (I don't think there's a Peertube version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkC1aK7jfLo

                  gokushrm@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @andypiper @eff my account got suspended by Mastodon few days ago because of only using 2 words about 2 nationality 🤣🤣. Freedom at social networking? No chance

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                  • txtx@mastodon.socialT txtx@mastodon.social

                    @andypiper @eff I'd like to see the EU ban foreign corporate social media platforms, period. We did it for television and print — there are laws against majority foreign ownership of media in most EU countries. We need to do the same to meta and x and TikTok.

                    andypiper@macaw.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @txtx I agree that @eff has a US focus; I'm also a member of @openrightsgroup here in the UK, and support similar causes of citizen rights in the EU as well.

                    I appreciated the mention of alternatives (Mastodon!) in this interview.

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                    • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

                      @andypiper @eff my account got suspended by Mastodon few days ago because of only using 2 words about 2 nationality 🤣🤣. Freedom at social networking? No chance

                      marcusxms@helvede.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @GOKUSHRM @andypiper @eff If you have your own instance, or you're on an instance that matches you, you can't be suspended. You can only be suspended if you've registered on an instance who have policies that they deem you don't follow. Suspension is instance specific, not global.

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                      • andypiper@macaw.socialA andypiper@macaw.social

                        @txtx I agree that @eff has a US focus; I'm also a member of @openrightsgroup here in the UK, and support similar causes of citizen rights in the EU as well.

                        I appreciated the mention of alternatives (Mastodon!) in this interview.

                        zl2tod@mastodon.onlineZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @andypiper @txtx @eff @openrightsgroup

                        Here's an example of @eff taking on an issue with global reach:

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                        Updated August 2005 » EFF press release about unsealed documents Aug 2 2005 On October 7 2004 more than 20 Independent Media Center (IMC) websites and other Internet services were taken offline pursuant to a Commissioner's Subpoena. The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) represented the interests...

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                        Electronic Frontier Foundation (www.eff.org)

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                        • marcusxms@helvede.netM marcusxms@helvede.net

                          @GOKUSHRM @andypiper @eff If you have your own instance, or you're on an instance that matches you, you can't be suspended. You can only be suspended if you've registered on an instance who have policies that they deem you don't follow. Suspension is instance specific, not global.

                          gokushrm@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @marcusxms @andypiper @eff so I need to selfhost my own instance to avoid suspense?

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                          • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

                            @marcusxms @andypiper @eff so I need to selfhost my own instance to avoid suspense?

                            stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @GOKUSHRM @marcusxms @andypiper @eff Or communicate with the staff, follow the instance's rules or chose another instance that is a better fit

                            SO many options!

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                            • andypiper@macaw.socialA andypiper@macaw.social

                              Nice to see a Mastodon shout-out on The Daily Show last night, thanks to @eff Executive Director Cindy Cohn!

                              It's a longer segment, with some interesting nuance around social media and censorship later in the conversation.

                              (disclosure: I am an EFF Member / sustaining donor)

                              YouTube link (I don't think there's a Peertube version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkC1aK7jfLo

                              codewizard@hear-me.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @andypiper @eff thanks for sharing this link 🤓🤓🤓

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                              • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                @GOKUSHRM @marcusxms @andypiper @eff Or communicate with the staff, follow the instance's rules or chose another instance that is a better fit

                                SO many options!

                                gokushrm@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @stux @marcusxms @andypiper @eff u may change the instance but u can't change ur views. So problem still the same.

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                                • andypiper@macaw.socialA andypiper@macaw.social

                                  Nice to see a Mastodon shout-out on The Daily Show last night, thanks to @eff Executive Director Cindy Cohn!

                                  It's a longer segment, with some interesting nuance around social media and censorship later in the conversation.

                                  (disclosure: I am an EFF Member / sustaining donor)

                                  YouTube link (I don't think there's a Peertube version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkC1aK7jfLo

                                  ponygirl@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @andypiper @eff Did she mention that the more you toot the better you feel?

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                                  • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

                                    @stux @marcusxms @andypiper @eff u may change the instance but u can't change ur views. So problem still the same.

                                    stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @GOKUSHRM @marcusxms @andypiper @eff I’m not sure what problem you are referring too

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                                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                      @andypiper @eff this is awesome!

                                      for people that want to skip to the part where Cohn talks about Mastodon, it starts at 20:27

                                      stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @_elena @andypiper Neat!

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                                      • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                        @GOKUSHRM @marcusxms @andypiper @eff I’m not sure what problem you are referring too

                                        gokushrm@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @stux @marcusxms @andypiper @eff where is freedom when u have to obey the rules

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                                        • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

                                          @stux @marcusxms @andypiper @eff where is freedom when u have to obey the rules

                                          stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @GOKUSHRM @marcusxms @andypiper @eff Why can’t freedom exist within the boundaries of the rules?

                                          Does your freedom has to come at the expense of someone else?

                                          Respect is more important than saying whatever the heck you want

                                          It’s not that hard

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