Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (Cyborg)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo

CIRCLE WITH A DOT

  1. Home
  2. Uncategorized
  3. Chrome looks set to ship an LLM Prompt API to the web platform.

Chrome looks set to ship an LLM Prompt API to the web platform.

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Uncategorized
47 Posts 25 Posters 0 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

    Chrome looks set to ship an LLM Prompt API to the web platform. At Mozilla, we oppose this API.

    We feel it has a large interoperability risk, and Google imposing T&Cs on a web API sets a dangerous precedent.

    Full details: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1213#issuecomment-4347988313

    drjeckyll@mastodon.jeckyll.netD This user is from outside of this forum
    drjeckyll@mastodon.jeckyll.netD This user is from outside of this forum
    drjeckyll@mastodon.jeckyll.net
    wrote last edited by
    #4

    @firefoxwebdevs

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

      Chrome looks set to ship an LLM Prompt API to the web platform. At Mozilla, we oppose this API.

      We feel it has a large interoperability risk, and Google imposing T&Cs on a web API sets a dangerous precedent.

      Full details: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1213#issuecomment-4347988313

      stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
      stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
      stux@mstdn.social
      wrote last edited by
      #5

      @firefoxwebdevs Whahaha good joke

      Mozilla opposes AI? Yeah right 😆

      marc_eu@veganism.socialM 1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

        Chrome looks set to ship an LLM Prompt API to the web platform. At Mozilla, we oppose this API.

        We feel it has a large interoperability risk, and Google imposing T&Cs on a web API sets a dangerous precedent.

        Full details: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1213#issuecomment-4347988313

        mike@sauropods.winM This user is from outside of this forum
        mike@sauropods.winM This user is from outside of this forum
        mike@sauropods.win
        wrote last edited by
        #6

        @firefoxwebdevs Your stance would have more credibility if Firefox was not also leaping so enthusiastically onto the AI hype train, in the teeth of near-universal opposition from users.

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

          Chrome looks set to ship an LLM Prompt API to the web platform. At Mozilla, we oppose this API.

          We feel it has a large interoperability risk, and Google imposing T&Cs on a web API sets a dangerous precedent.

          Full details: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1213#issuecomment-4347988313

          aedius@lavraievie.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
          aedius@lavraievie.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
          aedius@lavraievie.social
          wrote last edited by
          #7

          @firefoxwebdevs

          Now that you seems to see the LLM issue, please remove all of it from firefox.

          Thank you.

          toldtheworld@mastodon.socialT 1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • valpackett@social.treehouse.systemsV valpackett@social.treehouse.systems

            @firefoxwebdevs 'The intent to ship on blink-dev states web developers as "Strongly positive"' wow. absolutely comical. People hate Mozilla for being too positive towards LLMs… nothing involving LLMs can have a "strongly positive" reaction. Just how high on their own supply are they at Goog? Did they get an LLM to generate the web developers' reaction?

            kirb@hachyderm.ioK This user is from outside of this forum
            kirb@hachyderm.ioK This user is from outside of this forum
            kirb@hachyderm.io
            wrote last edited by
            #8

            @valpackett @firefoxwebdevs They also seem intent to keep redownloading a 4.4 GB model onto capable devices without saying anything, and I’m sure users are “strongly positive” on that https://superuser.com/questions/1930445/can-i-delete-the-chromes-optguideondevicemodel-safely-its-taking-up-4gb

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • aedius@lavraievie.socialA aedius@lavraievie.social

              @firefoxwebdevs

              Now that you seems to see the LLM issue, please remove all of it from firefox.

              Thank you.

              toldtheworld@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
              toldtheworld@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
              toldtheworld@mastodon.social
              wrote last edited by
              #9

              @Aedius @firefoxwebdevs but doesn't Firefox already allow us to disable AI features?

              firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF aedius@lavraievie.socialA 2 Replies Last reply
              0
              • toldtheworld@mastodon.socialT toldtheworld@mastodon.social

                @Aedius @firefoxwebdevs but doesn't Firefox already allow us to disable AI features?

                firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social
                wrote last edited by
                #10

                @toldtheworld @Aedius yep, "AI Controls" landed in Firefox 148 which lets you hide all AI entry points, for current and future AI feature. It also disables any previously opted-into AI features.

                kjv@mastodon.gamedev.placeK 1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                  @toldtheworld @Aedius yep, "AI Controls" landed in Firefox 148 which lets you hide all AI entry points, for current and future AI feature. It also disables any previously opted-into AI features.

                  kjv@mastodon.gamedev.placeK This user is from outside of this forum
                  kjv@mastodon.gamedev.placeK This user is from outside of this forum
                  kjv@mastodon.gamedev.place
                  wrote last edited by
                  #11

                  @firefoxwebdevs
                  So I had set AI Afeatures in config plans to false before the "AI controls" update. Does diabling AI controls set all AI positive flags to false ?

                  firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF 1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • kjv@mastodon.gamedev.placeK kjv@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    @firefoxwebdevs
                    So I had set AI Afeatures in config plans to false before the "AI controls" update. Does diabling AI controls set all AI positive flags to false ?

                    firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                    firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                    firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social
                    wrote last edited by
                    #12

                    @kjv the about:config options around this weren't historically reliable (it's just a key-value store) whereas AI Controls is the officially support way to control this stuff.

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                      Chrome looks set to ship an LLM Prompt API to the web platform. At Mozilla, we oppose this API.

                      We feel it has a large interoperability risk, and Google imposing T&Cs on a web API sets a dangerous precedent.

                      Full details: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1213#issuecomment-4347988313

                      a1ba@suya.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
                      a1ba@suya.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
                      a1ba@suya.place
                      wrote last edited by
                      #13
                      @firefoxwebdevs but can you really oppose your sugar daddy
                      firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF 1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • a1ba@suya.placeA a1ba@suya.place
                        @firefoxwebdevs but can you really oppose your sugar daddy
                        firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                        firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                        firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social
                        wrote last edited by
                        #14

                        @a1ba sure looks like it

                        a1ba@suya.placeA 1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                          Chrome looks set to ship an LLM Prompt API to the web platform. At Mozilla, we oppose this API.

                          We feel it has a large interoperability risk, and Google imposing T&Cs on a web API sets a dangerous precedent.

                          Full details: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1213#issuecomment-4347988313

                          hj@shigusegubu.clubH This user is from outside of this forum
                          hj@shigusegubu.clubH This user is from outside of this forum
                          hj@shigusegubu.club
                          wrote last edited by
                          #15
                          @firefoxwebdevs a new episode of mozilla once again does a PR stunt instead of developing their browser
                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                            @a1ba sure looks like it

                            a1ba@suya.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
                            a1ba@suya.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
                            a1ba@suya.place
                            wrote last edited by
                            #16
                            @firefoxwebdevs hope so
                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                              Chrome looks set to ship an LLM Prompt API to the web platform. At Mozilla, we oppose this API.

                              We feel it has a large interoperability risk, and Google imposing T&Cs on a web API sets a dangerous precedent.

                              Full details: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1213#issuecomment-4347988313

                              xela@troet.cafeX This user is from outside of this forum
                              xela@troet.cafeX This user is from outside of this forum
                              xela@troet.cafe
                              wrote last edited by
                              #17

                              @firefoxwebdevs wow, so odd. Does an LLM prompt API even belong into a browser? I seriously doubt it.

                              That it gets pushed into Chrome - no wonder. The company behind it pushes "AI" into everything, no matter what.

                              The dev concerns (GH thread) seem valid, BTW.

                              From a user's perspective, I'm only begging to stick with actual browser tasks (render websites safely and fast, and keep an eye on cpu/ram usage).

                              Not going all nuts on every hype is a quality characteristic nowadays.

                              firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF 1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                                Chrome looks set to ship an LLM Prompt API to the web platform. At Mozilla, we oppose this API.

                                We feel it has a large interoperability risk, and Google imposing T&Cs on a web API sets a dangerous precedent.

                                Full details: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1213#issuecomment-4347988313

                                north@xn--8r9a.comN This user is from outside of this forum
                                north@xn--8r9a.comN This user is from outside of this forum
                                north@xn--8r9a.com
                                wrote last edited by
                                #18

                                @firefoxwebdevs that's rich

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • xela@troet.cafeX xela@troet.cafe

                                  @firefoxwebdevs wow, so odd. Does an LLM prompt API even belong into a browser? I seriously doubt it.

                                  That it gets pushed into Chrome - no wonder. The company behind it pushes "AI" into everything, no matter what.

                                  The dev concerns (GH thread) seem valid, BTW.

                                  From a user's perspective, I'm only begging to stick with actual browser tasks (render websites safely and fast, and keep an eye on cpu/ram usage).

                                  Not going all nuts on every hype is a quality characteristic nowadays.

                                  firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                                  firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                                  firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #19

                                  @xela it's possible an LLM API will come along that solves the issues, but yeah… it seems really tricky. The open ended nature of it will always be a huge interop problem.

                                  If the use-cases are tightened, e.g. translation, the problem is reduced.

                                  xela@troet.cafeX 1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                    @firefoxwebdevs Whahaha good joke

                                    Mozilla opposes AI? Yeah right 😆

                                    marc_eu@veganism.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                                    marc_eu@veganism.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                                    marc_eu@veganism.social
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #20

                                    @stux @firefoxwebdevs
                                    Read first before you react. Mozilla opposes the *API*.

                                    stux@mstdn.socialS 1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • marc_eu@veganism.socialM marc_eu@veganism.social

                                      @stux @firefoxwebdevs
                                      Read first before you react. Mozilla opposes the *API*.

                                      stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                                      stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                                      stux@mstdn.social
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #21

                                      @marc_eu @firefoxwebdevs Yes, AI API

                                      marc_eu@veganism.socialM placebo@mastodon.ieP 2 Replies Last reply
                                      0
                                      • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                                        Chrome looks set to ship an LLM Prompt API to the web platform. At Mozilla, we oppose this API.

                                        We feel it has a large interoperability risk, and Google imposing T&Cs on a web API sets a dangerous precedent.

                                        Full details: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1213#issuecomment-4347988313

                                        wcbdata@vis.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
                                        wcbdata@vis.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
                                        wcbdata@vis.social
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #22

                                        @firefoxwebdevs I'm assuming @Vivaldi will disable the whole thing, yes?

                                        firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF techienotnetie@social.vivaldi.netT 2 Replies Last reply
                                        0
                                        • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                          @marc_eu @firefoxwebdevs Yes, AI API

                                          marc_eu@veganism.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                                          marc_eu@veganism.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                                          marc_eu@veganism.social
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #23

                                          @stux @firefoxwebdevs
                                          En dus is de reactie van Mozilla niet zo gek?

                                          yokhai@gaygeek.socialY 1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular
                                          • World
                                          • Users
                                          • Groups