Chrome looks set to ship an LLM Prompt API to the web platform.

[firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social]

Chrome looks set to ship an LLM Prompt API to the web platform. At Mozilla, we oppose this API.

We feel it has a large interoperability risk, and Google imposing T&Cs on a web API sets a dangerous precedent.

Full details: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1213#issuecomment-4347988313

[valpackett@social.treehouse.systems]

@firefoxwebdevs 'The intent to ship on blink-dev states web developers as "Strongly positive"' wow. absolutely comical. People hate Mozilla for being too positive towards LLMs… nothing involving LLMs can have a "strongly positive" reaction. Just how high on their own supply are they at Goog? Did they get an LLM to generate the web developers' reaction?

[firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social]

@valpackett yeah, "strongly positive" seems so misrepresentative that it'd break Google's T&C's if it was fed to the Prompt API.

[drjeckyll@mastodon.jeckyll.net]

@firefoxwebdevs

[stux@mstdn.social]

@firefoxwebdevs Whahaha good joke

Mozilla opposes AI? Yeah right

[mike@sauropods.win]

@firefoxwebdevs Your stance would have more credibility if Firefox was not also leaping so enthusiastically onto the AI hype train, in the teeth of near-universal opposition from users.

[aedius@lavraievie.social]

@firefoxwebdevs

Now that you seems to see the LLM issue, please remove all of it from firefox.

Thank you.

[kirb@hachyderm.io]

@valpackett @firefoxwebdevs They also seem intent to keep redownloading a 4.4 GB model onto capable devices without saying anything, and I’m sure users are “strongly positive” on that https://superuser.com/questions/1930445/can-i-delete-the-chromes-optguideondevicemodel-safely-its-taking-up-4gb

[toldtheworld@mastodon.social]

@Aedius @firefoxwebdevs but doesn't Firefox already allow us to disable AI features?

[firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social]

@toldtheworld @Aedius yep, "AI Controls" landed in Firefox 148 which lets you hide all AI entry points, for current and future AI feature. It also disables any previously opted-into AI features.

[kjv@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@firefoxwebdevs
So I had set AI Afeatures in config plans to false before the "AI controls" update. Does diabling AI controls set all AI positive flags to false ?

[firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social]

@kjv the about:config options around this weren't historically reliable (it's just a key-value store) whereas AI Controls is the officially support way to control this stuff.

[a1ba@suya.place]

@firefoxwebdevs but can you really oppose your sugar daddy

[firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social]

@a1ba sure looks like it

[hj@shigusegubu.club]

@firefoxwebdevs a new episode of mozilla once again does a PR stunt instead of developing their browser

[a1ba@suya.place]

@firefoxwebdevs hope so

[xela@troet.cafe]

@firefoxwebdevs wow, so odd. Does an LLM prompt API even belong into a browser? I seriously doubt it.

That it gets pushed into Chrome - no wonder. The company behind it pushes "AI" into everything, no matter what.

The dev concerns (GH thread) seem valid, BTW.

From a user's perspective, I'm only begging to stick with actual browser tasks (render websites safely and fast, and keep an eye on cpu/ram usage).

Not going all nuts on every hype is a quality characteristic nowadays.

[north@xn--8r9a.com]

@firefoxwebdevs that's rich

[firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social]

@xela it's possible an LLM API will come along that solves the issues, but yeah… it seems really tricky. The open ended nature of it will always be a huge interop problem.

If the use-cases are tightened, e.g. translation, the problem is reduced.

[marc_eu@veganism.social]

@stux @firefoxwebdevs
Read first before you react. Mozilla opposes the *API*.