hard-forked vim at release 9.1.0 (Jan 2024)
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FINAL EDIT: We've been making good progress with EVi! We've fully settled on version 9.1.0 with no AI code, we're on IRC @ #evi irc.oftc.net, we've gained a lots of popularity and we've been working on fixing tests and removing platforms that are deemed exotic with other cleanups. Thank you to everyone who has supported us this week!!!
hard-forked vim at release 9.1.0 (Jan 2024)
evi
evi - EVi, a hard-fork of Vim v9.1.0 (Jan 2024) before AI was used in the project.
Codeberg.org (codeberg.org)
maybe we can get a group of people behind this??
Fuck AI.
I thought about calling my fork cvi (for "Community's Vi IMproved") and starting at version 10.0.0 and making release dates be months, not days.
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I thought about calling my fork cvi (for "Community's Vi IMproved") and starting at version 10.0.0 and making release dates be months, not days.
Made an issue on how this should proceed.
How does this continue?
evi - EVi, a hard-fork of Vim v9.1.0 (Jan 2024) before AI was used in the project.
Codeberg.org (codeberg.org)
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Made an issue on how this should proceed.
How does this continue?
evi - EVi, a hard-fork of Vim v9.1.0 (Jan 2024) before AI was used in the project.
Codeberg.org (codeberg.org)
Made a pull request to small-hack/open-slopware to add #VIm to the list.
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M mrmasterkeyboard@mastodon.social shared this topic
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I thought about calling my fork cvi (for "Community's Vi IMproved") and starting at version 10.0.0 and making release dates be months, not days.
@mrmasterkeyboard IMHO, it's safer to drop the "IMproved". But I like the idea of renaming to "cvi"
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@mrmasterkeyboard IMHO, it's safer to drop the "IMproved". But I like the idea of renaming to "cvi"
@lu_leipzig good idea, I should do that.
I've been doing some research into the last non-AI version of VIm.
I've detailed my research in this PR on Codeberg, if you're interested about how far we can get to the latest non-AI code.
Add VIm
open-slopware - Free/Open Source Software tainted by LLM developers/developed by genAI boosters, along with alternatives. Fork of the repo by @gen-ai-transparency after its deletion.
Codeberg.org (codeberg.org)
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@mrmasterkeyboard IMHO, it's safer to drop the "IMproved". But I like the idea of renaming to "cvi"
@mrmasterkeyboard There's a commercial IDE by National Instruments also called cvi though. So maybe cvi isn't a safe name either, unfortunately
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@mrmasterkeyboard There's a commercial IDE by National Instruments also called cvi though. So maybe cvi isn't a safe name either, unfortunately
@lu_leipzig that sucks, I'll need a different name then... goddamn you commercial apps!
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Made a pull request to small-hack/open-slopware to add #VIm to the list.
Updated my fork to 9.1.2073 before the release of it, specifically, the last commit before the AI commit.
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Updated my fork to 9.1.2073 before the release of it, specifically, the last commit before the AI commit.
The first commit by me to the EVi editor, a fork of VIm before the AI slop.
Introducing, the beginning of development on EVi 10.0. (Intended to leave behind VIm 9.1/9.2.)
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The first commit by me to the EVi editor, a fork of VIm before the AI slop.
Introducing, the beginning of development on EVi 10.0. (Intended to leave behind VIm 9.1/9.2.)
I also aliased #Vi and #VIm to #EVi on my MacBook and HP laptops.
EVi will be my main terminal text editor from now on.
evi
evi - EVi, a hard-fork of Vim v9.1.0 (Jan 2024) before AI was used in the project.
Codeberg.org (codeberg.org)
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I also aliased #Vi and #VIm to #EVi on my MacBook and HP laptops.
EVi will be my main terminal text editor from now on.
evi
evi - EVi, a hard-fork of Vim v9.1.0 (Jan 2024) before AI was used in the project.
Codeberg.org (codeberg.org)
#EVi is now on irc.oftc.net! Come out hang out at the 'evi' channel!
I also plan Matrix and Fluxer later on!
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@mrmasterkeyboard idk if you're aware, but fluxer is slopware: blog.fluxer.app/how-i-built-fluxer-a-discord-like-chat-app/#the-llmephant-in-the-room
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@mrmasterkeyboard idk if you're aware, but fluxer is slopware: blog.fluxer.app/how-i-built-fluxer-a-discord-like-chat-app/#the-llmephant-in-the-room
@lumi This one... honestly, I don't know what to say.
Fluxer is the only thing better than Discord by a long shot even if it was LLM written in a small way.
My opinions on this are skewed.
Like yes, involvement probably wasn't that heavy.
Yes, it might have been the only way for a single person to do something like this.
But still it's an LLM...
I'm so conflicted right now, I don't know what to do.
Using slopware is a tradeoff instead of having age verification forced on me...
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@lumi This one... honestly, I don't know what to say.
Fluxer is the only thing better than Discord by a long shot even if it was LLM written in a small way.
My opinions on this are skewed.
Like yes, involvement probably wasn't that heavy.
Yes, it might have been the only way for a single person to do something like this.
But still it's an LLM...
I'm so conflicted right now, I don't know what to do.
Using slopware is a tradeoff instead of having age verification forced on me...
@mrmasterkeyboard i feel like we need a federated open standard for messaging made by the queer leftist community for the queer leftist community
once i have the headspace i'll do more in that direction -
@mrmasterkeyboard i feel like we need a federated open standard for messaging made by the queer leftist community for the queer leftist community
once i have the headspace i'll do more in that direction@lumi iirc i think i saw this exact idea somewhere... idk if it was you, but still, i like this idea
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@lumi iirc i think i saw this exact idea somewhere... idk if it was you, but still, i like this idea
@mrmasterkeyboard i have posted about this before, yeah
i flip flopped a lot back and forth over the years of how i would approach it, whether i should do it as a matrix client (decided no), do it as an xmpp client (possibly) or do my own protocol
using deltachat also gave me some inspiration and changed my views a little. messaging protocols are a bit of a special interest of mine x3
i haven't used discord since 2017 and i only used it for a couple hours because i got horrified at it storing message logs on the server in plaintext. my views on this did soften a bit but i still think discord is down there with telegram as one of the worst chat platforms. everything it could do wrong, i feel, it does do wrong -
@mrmasterkeyboard i feel like we need a federated open standard for messaging made by the queer leftist community for the queer leftist community
once i have the headspace i'll do more in that direction@lumi
It isn't federated, but what about Zulip?
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@lumi
It isn't federated, but what about Zulip?
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@mrmasterkeyboard i have posted about this before, yeah
i flip flopped a lot back and forth over the years of how i would approach it, whether i should do it as a matrix client (decided no), do it as an xmpp client (possibly) or do my own protocol
using deltachat also gave me some inspiration and changed my views a little. messaging protocols are a bit of a special interest of mine x3
i haven't used discord since 2017 and i only used it for a couple hours because i got horrified at it storing message logs on the server in plaintext. my views on this did soften a bit but i still think discord is down there with telegram as one of the worst chat platforms. everything it could do wrong, i feel, it does do wrong@lumi @mrmasterkeyboard have you seen the recent news about IRCv3 ? https://social.treehouse.systems/@whitequark/116089585784234453
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@lumi @mrmasterkeyboard have you seen the recent news about IRCv3 ? https://social.treehouse.systems/@whitequark/116089585784234453
@ailepet @mrmasterkeyboard yeah! ircv3 is really cool!
