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hard-forked vim at release 9.1.0 (Jan 2024)

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  • mrmasterkeyboard@mastodon.socialM mrmasterkeyboard@mastodon.social

    I thought about calling my fork cvi (for "Community's Vi IMproved") and starting at version 10.0.0 and making release dates be months, not days.

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    @mrmasterkeyboard IMHO, it's safer to drop the "IMproved". But I like the idea of renaming to "cvi" πŸ™‚

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    • lu_leipzig@troet.cafeL lu_leipzig@troet.cafe

      @mrmasterkeyboard IMHO, it's safer to drop the "IMproved". But I like the idea of renaming to "cvi" πŸ™‚

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      @lu_leipzig good idea, I should do that.

      I've been doing some research into the last non-AI version of VIm.

      I've detailed my research in this PR on Codeberg, if you're interested about how far we can get to the latest non-AI code.

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      open-slopware - Free/Open Source Software tainted by LLM developers/developed by genAI boosters, along with alternatives. Fork of the repo by @gen-ai-transparency after its deletion.

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      Codeberg.org (codeberg.org)

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      • lu_leipzig@troet.cafeL lu_leipzig@troet.cafe

        @mrmasterkeyboard IMHO, it's safer to drop the "IMproved". But I like the idea of renaming to "cvi" πŸ™‚

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        @mrmasterkeyboard There's a commercial IDE by National Instruments also called cvi though. So maybe cvi isn't a safe name either, unfortunately πŸ™

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        • lu_leipzig@troet.cafeL lu_leipzig@troet.cafe

          @mrmasterkeyboard There's a commercial IDE by National Instruments also called cvi though. So maybe cvi isn't a safe name either, unfortunately πŸ™

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          @lu_leipzig that sucks, I'll need a different name then... goddamn you commercial apps!

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          • mrmasterkeyboard@mastodon.socialM mrmasterkeyboard@mastodon.social

            Made a pull request to small-hack/open-slopware to add #VIm to the list.

            Cookie monster!

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            (codeberg.org)

            #Codeberg #FuckAI

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            Updated my fork to 9.1.2073 before the release of it, specifically, the last commit before the AI commit.

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            • mrmasterkeyboard@mastodon.socialM mrmasterkeyboard@mastodon.social

              Updated my fork to 9.1.2073 before the release of it, specifically, the last commit before the AI commit.

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              #10

              The first commit by me to the EVi editor, a fork of VIm before the AI slop.

              Cookie monster!

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              (codeberg.org)

              Introducing, the beginning of development on EVi 10.0. (Intended to leave behind VIm 9.1/9.2.)

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              • mrmasterkeyboard@mastodon.socialM mrmasterkeyboard@mastodon.social

                The first commit by me to the EVi editor, a fork of VIm before the AI slop.

                Cookie monster!

                favicon

                (codeberg.org)

                Introducing, the beginning of development on EVi 10.0. (Intended to leave behind VIm 9.1/9.2.)

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                #11

                I also aliased #Vi and #VIm to #EVi on my MacBook and HP laptops.

                EVi will be my main terminal text editor from now on.

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                evi

                evi - EVi, a hard-fork of Vim v9.1.0 (Jan 2024) before AI was used in the project.

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                #Tech #Technology #FuckAI

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                • mrmasterkeyboard@mastodon.socialM mrmasterkeyboard@mastodon.social

                  I also aliased #Vi and #VIm to #EVi on my MacBook and HP laptops.

                  EVi will be my main terminal text editor from now on.

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                  evi

                  evi - EVi, a hard-fork of Vim v9.1.0 (Jan 2024) before AI was used in the project.

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                  Codeberg.org (codeberg.org)

                  #Tech #Technology #FuckAI

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                  #12

                  #EVi is now on irc.oftc.net! Come out hang out at the 'evi' channel!

                  I also plan Matrix and Fluxer later on!

                  #VIm #Vi #Tech #Technology #IRC #FuckAI

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                  • mrmasterkeyboard@mastodon.socialM mrmasterkeyboard@mastodon.social

                    #EVi is now on irc.oftc.net! Come out hang out at the 'evi' channel!

                    I also plan Matrix and Fluxer later on!

                    #VIm #Vi #Tech #Technology #IRC #FuckAI

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                    @mrmasterkeyboard idk if you're aware, but fluxer is slopware: blog.fluxer.app/how-i-built-fluxer-a-discord-like-chat-app/#the-llmephant-in-the-room

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                    • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                      @mrmasterkeyboard idk if you're aware, but fluxer is slopware: blog.fluxer.app/how-i-built-fluxer-a-discord-like-chat-app/#the-llmephant-in-the-room

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                      #14

                      @lumi This one... honestly, I don't know what to say.

                      Fluxer is the only thing better than Discord by a long shot even if it was LLM written in a small way.

                      My opinions on this are skewed.

                      Like yes, involvement probably wasn't that heavy.

                      Yes, it might have been the only way for a single person to do something like this.

                      But still it's an LLM...

                      I'm so conflicted right now, I don't know what to do.

                      Using slopware is a tradeoff instead of having age verification forced on me...

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                      • mrmasterkeyboard@mastodon.socialM mrmasterkeyboard@mastodon.social

                        @lumi This one... honestly, I don't know what to say.

                        Fluxer is the only thing better than Discord by a long shot even if it was LLM written in a small way.

                        My opinions on this are skewed.

                        Like yes, involvement probably wasn't that heavy.

                        Yes, it might have been the only way for a single person to do something like this.

                        But still it's an LLM...

                        I'm so conflicted right now, I don't know what to do.

                        Using slopware is a tradeoff instead of having age verification forced on me...

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                        @mrmasterkeyboard i feel like we need a federated open standard for messaging made by the queer leftist community for the queer leftist community

                        once i have the headspace i'll do more in that direction

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                        • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                          @mrmasterkeyboard i feel like we need a federated open standard for messaging made by the queer leftist community for the queer leftist community

                          once i have the headspace i'll do more in that direction

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                          @lumi iirc i think i saw this exact idea somewhere... idk if it was you, but still, i like this idea

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                          • mrmasterkeyboard@mastodon.socialM mrmasterkeyboard@mastodon.social

                            @lumi iirc i think i saw this exact idea somewhere... idk if it was you, but still, i like this idea

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                            @mrmasterkeyboard i have posted about this before, yeah

                            i flip flopped a lot back and forth over the years of how i would approach it, whether i should do it as a matrix client (decided no), do it as an xmpp client (possibly) or do my own protocol

                            using deltachat also gave me some inspiration and changed my views a little. messaging protocols are a bit of a special interest of mine x3

                            i haven't used discord since 2017 and i only used it for a couple hours because i got horrified at it storing message logs on the server in plaintext. my views on this did soften a bit but i still think discord is down there with telegram as one of the worst chat platforms. everything it could do wrong, i feel, it does do wrong

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                            • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                              @mrmasterkeyboard i feel like we need a federated open standard for messaging made by the queer leftist community for the queer leftist community

                              once i have the headspace i'll do more in that direction

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                              @lumi
                              It isn't federated, but what about Zulip?
                              @mrmasterkeyboard

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                              • viq@social.hackerspace.plV viq@social.hackerspace.pl

                                @lumi
                                It isn't federated, but what about Zulip?
                                @mrmasterkeyboard

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                                @viq @lumi AI slop.

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                                • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                                  @mrmasterkeyboard i have posted about this before, yeah

                                  i flip flopped a lot back and forth over the years of how i would approach it, whether i should do it as a matrix client (decided no), do it as an xmpp client (possibly) or do my own protocol

                                  using deltachat also gave me some inspiration and changed my views a little. messaging protocols are a bit of a special interest of mine x3

                                  i haven't used discord since 2017 and i only used it for a couple hours because i got horrified at it storing message logs on the server in plaintext. my views on this did soften a bit but i still think discord is down there with telegram as one of the worst chat platforms. everything it could do wrong, i feel, it does do wrong

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                                  @lumi @mrmasterkeyboard have you seen the recent news about IRCv3 ? https://social.treehouse.systems/@whitequark/116089585784234453

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                                  • ailepet@peoplemaking.gamesA ailepet@peoplemaking.games

                                    @lumi @mrmasterkeyboard have you seen the recent news about IRCv3 ? https://social.treehouse.systems/@whitequark/116089585784234453

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                                    @ailepet @mrmasterkeyboard yeah! ircv3 is really cool!

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                                    • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                                      @ailepet @mrmasterkeyboard yeah! ircv3 is really cool!

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                                      @lumi @ailepet yeah i saw a bit about it.

                                      also regarding EVi, we found AI slop in the codebase and we're currently trying to work out our best option to unsloppify it right now. we've identified all commits from said slop user.

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