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  3. It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague.

It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague.

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  • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

    It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

    hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH This user is from outside of this forum
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    I realise it’s a cultural thing and I try to be culturally sensitive but I have plenty of global colleagues from very conservative backgrounds who can make compromises to work respectfully with a diverse team. It’s just too much.

    rootwyrm@weird.autosR paul_ipv6@infosec.exchangeP nnungest@fosstodon.orgN scottymace@infosec.exchangeS orloff@sfba.socialO 8 Replies Last reply
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    • sarraceniawilds@sunny.gardenS sarraceniawilds@sunny.garden

      @hacks4pancakes that shit is so infuriating and i encounter it way too often

      hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH This user is from outside of this forum
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      @SarraceniaWilds not normally for me from someone who wants a job

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      • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH This user is from outside of this forum
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        @FurryBeta yes but I managed to not just stop the interview like I wanted mid way. Immense self control

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        • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

          @FurryBeta yes but I managed to not just stop the interview like I wanted mid way. Immense self control

          n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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          @hacks4pancakes @FurryBeta

          You can always learn form a disaster.

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          • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

            It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

            mikey@friendsofdesoto.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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            @hacks4pancakes

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            • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

              @SarraceniaWilds not normally for me from someone who wants a job

              sarraceniawilds@sunny.gardenS This user is from outside of this forum
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              @hacks4pancakes thats legit. their bullshit is so blinding they cant read the room

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              • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                I realise it’s a cultural thing and I try to be culturally sensitive but I have plenty of global colleagues from very conservative backgrounds who can make compromises to work respectfully with a diverse team. It’s just too much.

                rootwyrm@weird.autosR This user is from outside of this forum
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                @hacks4pancakes it's not a cultural thing. It's a misogyny and bigotry thing. Being part of the culture doesn't change that. It just makes it easy to pick out the candidates who are incapable of independent thought or growth, and therefore unqualified for any position.

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                • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                  It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

                  crow@irlqt.netC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange uncomfortably relatable

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                  • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                    I realise it’s a cultural thing and I try to be culturally sensitive but I have plenty of global colleagues from very conservative backgrounds who can make compromises to work respectfully with a diverse team. It’s just too much.

                    paul_ipv6@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @hacks4pancakes

                    culture is just bias sanitized and in a nicer suit...

                    respect for everyone should be table stakes.

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                    • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                      I realise it’s a cultural thing and I try to be culturally sensitive but I have plenty of global colleagues from very conservative backgrounds who can make compromises to work respectfully with a diverse team. It’s just too much.

                      nnungest@fosstodon.orgN This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @hacks4pancakes ironically it is really hard to tolerate the intolerant and accept the unaccepting.

                      on a more business note, if the expectation is that they must be able to interface with all the staff and they chose not to, I would feel they aren't able to fulfil the stated job responsibilities. Best to ensure that is included in the posting.

                      edit: also sorry you had to deal with this

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                      • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                        It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

                        geos@toot.communityG This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @hacks4pancakes
                        My first thought is, I have a kid on the spectrum who finds direct eye contact painful , but if they were able to do this with a male colleague that is probably not it. Next, I did work with someone from another country who became engaged and (believe it or not) his religion prohibited him from gazing at women for something like 30 days before the wedding. One of my coworkers asked him about it and he seemed embarassed explaining it.
                        Gotta go with your gut tho.

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                        • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                          I realise it’s a cultural thing and I try to be culturally sensitive but I have plenty of global colleagues from very conservative backgrounds who can make compromises to work respectfully with a diverse team. It’s just too much.

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                          @hacks4pancakes Well, there's a difference between "conservative" and a cult. I'm confident you know that, and I'm not trying to be a reply guy. The situation is that the "conservatives" that can't make compromises, and are absolutists, aren't conservatives at all! They are ideological cultists, and represent the worst of humanity.

                          As climate change forced migration increases, and wealth inequality increases, (connected!) these people will amp up their rhetoric to convert more to their cult.

                          It's the same with "I'm a CAPITALIST!", yet champion monopolies. No, they aren't, they're greedy cultists.

                          Sorry for the screed, but I think we're kinda fucked.

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                          • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                            It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

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                            @hacks4pancakes oh hell no

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                            • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                              It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

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                              @hacks4pancakes

                              Note to male colleague: When you find yourself in this situation, do not return the look of the candidate. Direct your gaze at your female colleague. It makes it clear that she's the one the answer should be directed to, and perhaps the candidate might figure this out.

                              Also: not just for interview situations.

                              Also also: still don't hire the guy.

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                              • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                                It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

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                                @hacks4pancakes wow, incredibly disrespectful, whatever the culture or background is.

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                                • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                                  It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

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                                  @hacks4pancakes

                                  Short interview?

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                                  • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                                    I realise it’s a cultural thing and I try to be culturally sensitive but I have plenty of global colleagues from very conservative backgrounds who can make compromises to work respectfully with a diverse team. It’s just too much.

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                                    @hacks4pancakes When this would happen in previous company's interview rotations we would just have an immediate urgent production issue and short circuit the interviews. We called it "the kubernetes cluster went down" (we didn't use kubernetes).

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                                    • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                                      It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

                                      phpete@mastodon.coffeeP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @hacks4pancakes

                                      Several failed attempts at a reply later, I think I'm settling on the 😬 emoji, and some perhaps some sort of reference to my assumption that at least you could kick their ass in a fight?

                                      Meh.

                                      Some people just suck.

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                                      • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                                        It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

                                        bgrinter@mastodon.sdf.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @hacks4pancakes time for the red pen

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                                        • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                                          It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.

                                          jawarajabbi@mastodon.onlineJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @hacks4pancakes

                                          Enraging.

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