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  3. so i got a steam deck (i wanted one for a while & the threat of them running out of DRAM because of AI demand is looming)

so i got a steam deck (i wanted one for a while & the threat of them running out of DRAM because of AI demand is looming)

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  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

    @david_chisnall yeah so you need at least twice that amount unless you're installing it through the 'online' installer (i usually don't)

    i think the latest version is closer to 120 GB

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    @whitequark I think I used the online installer.

    It's a bit of a blur, I tried repeatedly to install it on a Windows machine and failed before I went to Docker on the Mac.

    Their export control thing is the worst UI I have seen in a long time.

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    • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

      @whitequark I think I used the online installer.

      It's a bit of a blur, I tried repeatedly to install it on a Windows machine and failed before I went to Docker on the Mac.

      Their export control thing is the worst UI I have seen in a long time.

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      @david_chisnall it's quite absurdly bad, yes.

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      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

        @david_chisnall yeah so you need at least twice that amount unless you're installing it through the 'online' installer (i usually don't)

        i think the latest version is closer to 120 GB

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        @whitequark
        @david_chisnall Which is not all that unusual a size for a game these days... I guess the Steam Deck is a suitable enough device for it.

        I have my Steam Deck upgraded to 2 TB with a 1 TB SD (SanDisk now has a 1.5 TB card too). Gotta have as much space as possible to buy games on sale, install them, and not play them.

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        • ids1024@mathstodon.xyzI ids1024@mathstodon.xyz

          @whitequark
          @david_chisnall Which is not all that unusual a size for a game these days... I guess the Steam Deck is a suitable enough device for it.

          I have my Steam Deck upgraded to 2 TB with a 1 TB SD (SanDisk now has a 1.5 TB card too). Gotta have as much space as possible to buy games on sale, install them, and not play them.

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          @ids1024 @david_chisnall i am in the UK which has real internet (1 Gbps down) so i don't worry too much about downloading every game possible

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          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

            @ids1024 @david_chisnall i am in the UK which has real internet (1 Gbps down) so i don't worry too much about downloading every game possible

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            @whitequark @david_chisnall Yeah, until the fiber company decides to grace this side street with their benevolence, I can't really start a download on a modern game and expect to be running the game on the same day.

            We have stone age infrastructure here in... err... the San Francisco Bay Area. Presumably all the money is going to AI instead.

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            • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

              so i got a steam deck (i wanted one for a while & the threat of them running out of DRAM because of AI demand is looming)

              it's... it's really nice. someone actually gave a shit while designing this PC hardware and software. rare and pleasant

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              @whitequark i want the game cube orr Stanley steamer or the stem cube or whatever based solely on the strength of the steam desk

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              • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                i'm going to install Vivado on it

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                you think i was joking

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                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                  you think i was joking

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                  @whitequark amazing you can just install a unified AMD on it.

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                  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                    you think i was joking

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                    @whitequark I don't think a single soul thought you were joking

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                    • mei@donotsta.reM mei@donotsta.re
                      @whitequark

                      > cat gets electronics tooling? installs games on it of course.

                      > cat gets a gaming machine? well EDA is really the obvious option isn't it
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                      @mei @whitequark waiting to see you post about playing doom on a Palladium

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                      • mei@donotsta.reM mei@donotsta.re
                        @whitequark

                        > cat gets electronics tooling? installs games on it of course.

                        > cat gets a gaming machine? well EDA is really the obvious option isn't it
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                        @mei @whitequark still planning to install @gnuradio on a R36S

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                        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                          you think i was joking

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                          @whitequark "return to gaming mode" wdym gaben vivado *is* gaming

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                          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                            you think i was joking

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                            @whitequark “certain cats do it all the time”, “it’s fine as long as you don’t vibecode”, “isn’t it export-controlled now?”

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                            • promovicz@chaos.socialP promovicz@chaos.social

                              @whitequark “certain cats do it all the time”, “it’s fine as long as you don’t vibecode”, “isn’t it export-controlled now?”

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                              @promovicz it is in fact export-controlled and has been for as long as i've been using it

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                              • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                you think i was joking

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                                it needed some convincing but it runs!

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                                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                  it needed some convincing but it runs!

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                                  now for the real test of steam deck's utility: how fast can it pnr

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                                  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                    you think i was joking

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                                    @whitequark I would never

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                                    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                      now for the real test of steam deck's utility: how fast can it pnr

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                                      @whitequark according to one benchmark, it has some strange CPU memory bandwidth issues ( https://chipsandcheese.com/p/van-gogh-amds-steam-deck-apu )

                                      but overall still performs quite well for the "ultra-mobile" (do they still use that term?) device class. doesn't throttle for no reason, for one

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                                      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                        now for the real test of steam deck's utility: how fast can it pnr

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                                        despite having only 88 GB/s of memory bandwidth (https://glauca.space/@r/116126575467566538) it seems to be... okay? oddly it appears much slower to do synthesis than pnr on their or1200 demo project, which is not the way it usually goes

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                                        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                          now for the real test of steam deck's utility: how fast can it pnr

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                                          @whitequark don't forget the FPS (Flipflops Per Second) overlay

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