so i got a steam deck (i wanted one for a while & the threat of them running out of DRAM because of AI demand is looming)

[mei@donotsta.re]

@whitequark

> cat gets electronics tooling? installs games on it of course.

> cat gets a gaming machine? well EDA is really the obvious option isn't it

[whitequark@social.treehouse.systems]

@mei exactly

[david_chisnall@infosec.exchange]

@whitequark

Installing Vivado is the end boss for the Steam Deck.

Using Vivado is the end boss if you turn the difficulty down a bit.

[whitequark@social.treehouse.systems]

@david_chisnall tbh i would expect the main problem to be "Vivado is enormous" but i did get the 1 TB version for exactly this contingency

[r@glauca.space]

@whitequark the software stack has some amount of Gamer Jank (especially if you want to actually play games), but the bulk of the advantage seems to come directly from "not being gratuitously dgaf terrible"

[f4grx@chaos.social]

@whitequark @mei EDA is a maze game.

[whitequark@social.treehouse.systems]

@r yeah this is like most of what was driving my decisions. i don't even know if i'll like the form factor! but if i don't, it's put together well enough that i should have zero issues reselling it

[whitequark@social.treehouse.systems]

@f4grx @mei it's definitely a roguelite

[unnick@booping.synth.download]

@whitequark@social.treehouse.systems @f4grx@chaos.social @mei@donotsta.re i thought its a zachlike?

[david_chisnall@infosec.exchange]

@whitequark My install seems to be 'only' 79 GB.

Mind you, I run Vivado in a Docker container on macOS with Rosetta2, which turned out to be easier than installing it on Windows.

[whitequark@social.treehouse.systems]

@david_chisnall yeah so you need at least twice that amount unless you're installing it through the 'online' installer (i usually don't)

i think the latest version is closer to 120 GB

[r@glauca.space]

@whitequark fwiw we quite like it, but we also think the form factor is being *very* underutilized (as far as we understand it, due to limitations of the Gamer️ middleware ecosystem)

notably: trackpad ~= mouse, *not* thumbsticks! (this *used* to be a huge part of valve marketing materials, but they've been repeating it less and less)

we're also a heavy user of "flick stick + gyro", but that one might be divisive

on the "platform" level, it's a rare x86 device that supports USB DRD, if you enjoy cursedness (also top example of giving a shit: all the kernel support is enabled and shipped even though this function isn't used by the rest of the software stack)

[david_chisnall@infosec.exchange]

@whitequark I think I used the online installer.

It's a bit of a blur, I tried repeatedly to install it on a Windows machine and failed before I went to Docker on the Mac.

Their export control thing is the worst UI I have seen in a long time.

[whitequark@social.treehouse.systems]

@david_chisnall it's quite absurdly bad, yes.

[ids1024@mathstodon.xyz]

@whitequark
@david_chisnall Which is not all that unusual a size for a game these days... I guess the Steam Deck is a suitable enough device for it.

I have my Steam Deck upgraded to 2 TB with a 1 TB SD (SanDisk now has a 1.5 TB card too). Gotta have as much space as possible to buy games on sale, install them, and not play them.

[whitequark@social.treehouse.systems]

@ids1024 @david_chisnall i am in the UK which has real internet (1 Gbps down) so i don't worry too much about downloading every game possible

[ids1024@mathstodon.xyz]

@whitequark @david_chisnall Yeah, until the fiber company decides to grace this side street with their benevolence, I can't really start a download on a modern game and expect to be running the game on the same day.

We have stone age infrastructure here in... err... the San Francisco Bay Area. Presumably all the money is going to AI instead.

[synec@messydesk.social]

@whitequark i want the game cube orr Stanley steamer or the stem cube or whatever based solely on the strength of the steam desk

[whitequark@social.treehouse.systems]

you think i was joking

[dysfun@social.treehouse.systems]

@whitequark amazing you can just install a unified AMD on it.