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Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

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  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

    @Infoseepage You haven't read my SF, have you? (Hint: try "Glasshouse".)

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    @cstross I've read your stuff fairly comprehensively, but somehow missed that one. Tossing it on my list now.

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    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

      Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

      In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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      @cstross

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      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

        Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

        In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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        @cstross The Orzhov Syndicate would like a word.

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        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

          Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

          In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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          @cstross "The Victorians were onto something with their debtors' prison. So I'd like to introduce you to a little concept we're working on. It's called debtors' Hell …”

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          • infoseepage@mastodon.socialI infoseepage@mastodon.social

            @cstross I've read your stuff fairly comprehensively, but somehow missed that one. Tossing it on my list now.

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            @Infoseepage A thing i should have made clear in the front matter is that "the glasshouse" is old British army slang for a military prison.

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            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

              @cstross 3dfx inspired, right?

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              @davidgerard @cstross Sounds like a mix of the Laundry's 'residual assets' is it? With Max Gladstone's stuff. Neat!

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              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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                @cstross I think that was the point of the original Haitian zombie myth. Slavery continues, even after death.

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                • tarah@infosec.exchangeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @LordWoolamaloo @cstross came here to say this.

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                  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                    Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                    In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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                    @cstross
                    There's something of this in Max Gladstone's Craft sequences.

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                    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                      Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                      In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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                      @cstross ah, a fantasy version of RoboCop

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                      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                        Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                        In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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                        @cstross Just when you thought you were out, iteas for a Laundry Files anthology pull you back in. *chuckles darkly* πŸ™‚

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                        • hmfons@mastodon.socialH hmfons@mastodon.social

                          @cstross The Orzhov Syndicate would like a word.

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                          @HmFons @cstross

                          Came here to say this.

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                          • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                            Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                            In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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                            @cstross Great concept. Maybe after you finish your sequel?

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                            • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                              Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                              In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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                              @cstross I like it. It's got legs!

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                              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                                In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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                                @cstross While this idea is quite different, for some reason it reminded me of the Dan Shamble, Zombie P.I. Series by Kevin J. Anderson, which I enjoyed quite a lot & wished there was more of.

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                                • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                  Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                                  In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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                                  @cstross You're pretty close to the world of The Craft Cycle and Craft Wars books, ofc

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                                  • xchaos@f.czX xchaos@f.cz

                                    @moira @cstross Actually, almost exactly this idea is behind evolution of term "debt" from "sin". If you read Graeber's Debt: The First 5,000 Years, you kind of feel, that the religions originated exactly from such concept.

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                                    @xChaos @moira @cstross In Dutch even the same word: schuld.

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                                      @electropict This is very close to Vernor Vinge's novella "The Cookie Monster" : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cookie_Monster_(novella)

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                                      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                        Mad fantasy-fic idea: what if even death is no escape from the law, and contracts signed in life remain binding after shuffling off this mortal coil?

                                        In this setting, all contract lawyers are necromancers. A zombie is what you get when an undischarged bankrupt dies. And so on.

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                                        @cstross Iain M. Banks had a novel ("Surface Detail") about a planet that enforced post-life hell by digitalizing a person's memories and personality and then installing it in a computer-generated sim of hell.

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                                        • angusm@mastodon.socialA angusm@mastodon.social

                                          @cstross "The Victorians were onto something with their debtors' prison. So I'd like to introduce you to a little concept we're working on. It's called debtors' Hell …”

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                                          @angusm @cstross
                                          Should we ever be able to map individual human consciousness, including memories, completely and accurately from human brains the notion of a "debtor's Hell" could become a reality, at least as far as using human minds as computers for unpaid labour is concerned.

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