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  • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

    (He's just used "Tāngata Whenua, Tāngata Moana, and Tāngata Tiriti"... - it's the first time I've encountered this grouping, and the first time I've heard the middle group. Have to say, I'm a big fan)

    #KiaTikaKiaPono

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    #88

    (Side note, this talk is honestly fascinating and engaging, but the concepts are big and chunky, and I'm really struggling to distill down to Toot-bites, arohamai e te whānau ipurangi. ..)

    #KiaTikaKiaPono

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    • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

      (Side note, this talk is honestly fascinating and engaging, but the concepts are big and chunky, and I'm really struggling to distill down to Toot-bites, arohamai e te whānau ipurangi. ..)

      #KiaTikaKiaPono

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      #89

      The line the govt likes to take is that 'the people have spoken, we have a remit'. That view of democracy is very thin... anaemic.

      What are the mechanisms that enable us to shift and refocus to listening and dialogue?

      We've seen _many_ examples of unjust law making and undermine democracy. Skipping the select committee process removing the opportunity for public discussion intended to be part of that dialogue.

      #KiaTikaKiaPono

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      • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

        The line the govt likes to take is that 'the people have spoken, we have a remit'. That view of democracy is very thin... anaemic.

        What are the mechanisms that enable us to shift and refocus to listening and dialogue?

        We've seen _many_ examples of unjust law making and undermine democracy. Skipping the select committee process removing the opportunity for public discussion intended to be part of that dialogue.

        #KiaTikaKiaPono

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        #90

        The standing up of the people select committees had been stood up to fill that gap. Demonstrating the power of listening, parliament have failed to listen.

        No consultation at all on the pay parity decision. No one campaigned on it, so no one voted for this, and there was no discussion. There is no discussion here, no listening.

        Numerous examples of official advice being ignored, recently the 'move on orders'. But many policies have been about removing community input ...

        #KiaTikaKiaPono

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        • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

          The standing up of the people select committees had been stood up to fill that gap. Demonstrating the power of listening, parliament have failed to listen.

          No consultation at all on the pay parity decision. No one campaigned on it, so no one voted for this, and there was no discussion. There is no discussion here, no listening.

          Numerous examples of official advice being ignored, recently the 'move on orders'. But many policies have been about removing community input ...

          #KiaTikaKiaPono

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          #91

          ... into issues that directly impact them. There was no consultation, just a belief that the government knows best.

          98.7% of contributions to the Regulatory Standards Bill were against it. And yet the minister responsible for it showed contempt by refusing to engage with the concerns raised there. That's not engaging in discussion.

          #KiaTikaKiaPono

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          • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

            ... into issues that directly impact them. There was no consultation, just a belief that the government knows best.

            98.7% of contributions to the Regulatory Standards Bill were against it. And yet the minister responsible for it showed contempt by refusing to engage with the concerns raised there. That's not engaging in discussion.

            #KiaTikaKiaPono

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            #92

            I am getting to some good news.. it doesn't need to be this way.

            We need to think about how we reorient ourselves if we do want a just society.

            Te Tiriti provides a model of how we can organise a model for collaborative public discussion. It envisages the ongoing sharing of different types of power between the Crown and tāngata whenua. Moves us away from a "govt knows best approach".

            #KiaTikaKiaPono

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            • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

              I am getting to some good news.. it doesn't need to be this way.

              We need to think about how we reorient ourselves if we do want a just society.

              Te Tiriti provides a model of how we can organise a model for collaborative public discussion. It envisages the ongoing sharing of different types of power between the Crown and tāngata whenua. Moves us away from a "govt knows best approach".

              #KiaTikaKiaPono

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              #93

              A constitution should be based on what is the right way to behave and engage (tikanga), and a value of community.

              While Māori representation in parliament is important, it is not decolonisation. It's an adornment to it.

              #KiaTikaKiaPono

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              • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                So, after a full day yesterday (0900-1730) of 150-200 odd people in the lecture theatre, this was the reading at the end, as the last speaker was receiving their koha.

                For those not as familiar with the readings, it was 518 outside just now, so this is basically "fresh air". My (big, government) office NEVER falls below 850, and meeting rooms often climb to over 2000 inside 20 mins.

                A packed peak time commuter train on recirculated air is about 1600.

                So this is AMAZING.

                #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                #94

                @Phil_Tanner do you have information on the filtration/ventilation system that makes it like this, and if they did it on purpose?

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                • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                  A constitution should be based on what is the right way to behave and engage (tikanga), and a value of community.

                  While Māori representation in parliament is important, it is not decolonisation. It's an adornment to it.

                  #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                  #95

                  How do we shift from constitutional dialogue to constitutional kōrero. Not to just replace it with a Māori word, but to have a concept for our ministers to approach things with a Māori perspective.

                  It provides a space for people to disagree with the outcome, and still have their perspective and voice to still be held.

                  #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                  • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                    How do we shift from constitutional dialogue to constitutional kōrero. Not to just replace it with a Māori word, but to have a concept for our ministers to approach things with a Māori perspective.

                    It provides a space for people to disagree with the outcome, and still have their perspective and voice to still be held.

                    #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                    #96

                    And that's a wrap. (Well, technically there's a field trip to Porirua Harbour this afternoon, but with the weather warnings and flooding, I'm giving that a miss).

                    Thank you all for your favourites, boosts, and supportive comments while I live tweeted this.

                    I have no doubt there's a fair few autocucumber errors that slipped in while I was madly posting... but i tried to be true to the intent of the speakers words even when I couldn't keep up fast enough to be 100% accurate.

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                    • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                      And that's a wrap. (Well, technically there's a field trip to Porirua Harbour this afternoon, but with the weather warnings and flooding, I'm giving that a miss).

                      Thank you all for your favourites, boosts, and supportive comments while I live tweeted this.

                      I have no doubt there's a fair few autocucumber errors that slipped in while I was madly posting... but i tried to be true to the intent of the speakers words even when I couldn't keep up fast enough to be 100% accurate.

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                      #97

                      So most of the words in these posts have not been mine, but those of others. I hope i was clear when it was my voice, but if in doubt (or it was a particularly insightful remark), you should assume someone else said it.

                      I really loved this conference, and live tooting it reminded me of the good old days of Twitter, where I could find other attendees and see their interpretations of what was being said, and pick up other quotes i missed.

                      Another thing stolen from us. 🥺

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                      • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                        So most of the words in these posts have not been mine, but those of others. I hope i was clear when it was my voice, but if in doubt (or it was a particularly insightful remark), you should assume someone else said it.

                        I really loved this conference, and live tooting it reminded me of the good old days of Twitter, where I could find other attendees and see their interpretations of what was being said, and pick up other quotes i missed.

                        Another thing stolen from us. 🥺

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                        #98

                        E mihi ana ki a koe mō te rangapū ki roto te haerenga i ēnei rā.

                        Thank you for coming along with me these last few days.

                        I am certainly thinking more about what I can do to build a better society, what that looks like, and how I can help move the dial in all the aspects of my life.

                        #KiaTikaKiaPono... Me kia kaha hoki, kia māia, me te mea nui; kia manawanui e hoa mā.

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                        • torithom@theforkiverse.comT torithom@theforkiverse.com

                          @Phil_Tanner do you have information on the filtration/ventilation system that makes it like this, and if they did it on purpose?

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                          @Torithom no, sorry.

                          It's a new Victoria University building. So I'm assuming they built it this way deliberately.

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                          • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                            E mihi ana ki a koe mō te rangapū ki roto te haerenga i ēnei rā.

                            Thank you for coming along with me these last few days.

                            I am certainly thinking more about what I can do to build a better society, what that looks like, and how I can help move the dial in all the aspects of my life.

                            #KiaTikaKiaPono... Me kia kaha hoki, kia māia, me te mea nui; kia manawanui e hoa mā.

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                            #100

                            And as an example of me living my values, I "kia māia"d on day one, by filling a gap after the final speaker when during the time for questions afterwards, and there was nothing but a slightly awkward silence... I stood up, and started a waiata tautoko, which the whole room joined in. The first of the conference (there were two more over the following days).

                            I've not sung in public before, let alone in Te Reo Māori. Let alone led it!! But it had been a truly inspirational speech.

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                            • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                              And as an example of me living my values, I "kia māia"d on day one, by filling a gap after the final speaker when during the time for questions afterwards, and there was nothing but a slightly awkward silence... I stood up, and started a waiata tautoko, which the whole room joined in. The first of the conference (there were two more over the following days).

                              I've not sung in public before, let alone in Te Reo Māori. Let alone led it!! But it had been a truly inspirational speech.

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                              #101

                              And then as I left this afternoon, I went to speak to Gareth Hughes, and thanked him for what he did and what he went thru. I got to speak to one of my inspiring "heroes", when I would normally have slunk away wishing I was braver.

                              Be the change you want. As Gareth said (and I didn't toot), "we are living in a time of monsters". So, be the light you want to see in the world. We can change it for the better by acting together.

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                              • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                                And that's a wrap. (Well, technically there's a field trip to Porirua Harbour this afternoon, but with the weather warnings and flooding, I'm giving that a miss).

                                Thank you all for your favourites, boosts, and supportive comments while I live tweeted this.

                                I have no doubt there's a fair few autocucumber errors that slipped in while I was madly posting... but i tried to be true to the intent of the speakers words even when I couldn't keep up fast enough to be 100% accurate.

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                                @Phil_Tanner Ya done well!

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                                • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                                  And as an example of me living my values, I "kia māia"d on day one, by filling a gap after the final speaker when during the time for questions afterwards, and there was nothing but a slightly awkward silence... I stood up, and started a waiata tautoko, which the whole room joined in. The first of the conference (there were two more over the following days).

                                  I've not sung in public before, let alone in Te Reo Māori. Let alone led it!! But it had been a truly inspirational speech.

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                                  @Phil_Tanner I wasn't there* but thank you for doing that.

                                  *Seriously considered going but I had other commitments

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                                  • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                                    Great quote: "The opposite of poverty is not wealth, it is justice".

                                    #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                                    #104

                                    @Phil_Tanner "Poverty, By America" by Matthew Desmond is another good source of ideas and quotes. #books
                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty,_by_America

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                                    • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                                      So, after a full day yesterday (0900-1730) of 150-200 odd people in the lecture theatre, this was the reading at the end, as the last speaker was receiving their koha.

                                      For those not as familiar with the readings, it was 518 outside just now, so this is basically "fresh air". My (big, government) office NEVER falls below 850, and meeting rooms often climb to over 2000 inside 20 mins.

                                      A packed peak time commuter train on recirculated air is about 1600.

                                      So this is AMAZING.

                                      #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                                      #105

                                      @Phil_Tanner Phew, that's a relief!

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                                      • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                                        "How many girls are riding their bikes to school?" is a better measure of a country's success than GDP.

                                        It tells you about so much more; about access to education, gender equality, road safety, the environment...

                                        #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                                        @Phil_Tanner lovely. I am getting interested in "folk indicators of economic performance", and this is a good one. My favourite so far is "how long do I have to wait for a visit by a specialist", like a dermatologist or some such.

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                                        • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                                          "How many girls are riding their bikes to school?" is a better measure of a country's success than GDP.

                                          It tells you about so much more; about access to education, gender equality, road safety, the environment...

                                          #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                                          #107

                                          @Phil_Tanner
                                          That's really insightful -thanks.

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