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  4. We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community.

We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community.

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  • waystation@sunny.gardenW waystation@sunny.garden

    @Gargron I don't use discord. I never even visit the Patreon. I just didn't know if Patreon is becoming an unsafe space.

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    @waystation We have a Discord for people who support us on Patreon. We’re planning to move from Discord to Zulip for that purpose instead.

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    • dmian@mastodon.socialD dmian@mastodon.social

      @lefteristrip23 @Gargron I’m just guessing, but maybe because they’re a small team that needs a solution and not another service to manage and maintain? Sometimes you just want a no-friction service that won’t add extra load on your employees. But that’s me speculating. There could be a way different but completely justified reason. These are smart people, and I trust they know what they’re doing.

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      @dmian @Gargron to be fair, matrix isn't quite there yet, indeed

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      • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

        @waystation We have a Discord for people who support us on Patreon. We’re planning to move from Discord to Zulip for that purpose instead.

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        @Gargron Ah, I misread. My apologies. I've been under the weather since last night.

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        • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

          @waystation Why would you need to do that? You don’t have to use Discord even now, it is optional.

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          @Gargron @waystation Rather stupidly, a lot of software support and wiki's are now contained only on Discord, which has been a stupid move to be clear. Even purely social communities for almost anything host on Discord now.

          The internet is a lonelier place for all the social interactivity it has hoovered up.

          Time will tell if Discord have pointed both barrels at their feet and pulled the trigger... But nobody seems happy with the decision.

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          • lefteristrip23@mastodon.socialL lefteristrip23@mastodon.social

            @dmian @Gargron to be fair, matrix isn't quite there yet, indeed

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            @lefteristrip23 @Gargron Even if it was, and it will be a mature platform one day, you always need someone to take care of it. It’s the same with everything you install on a server. And sometimes, you’re not eager to do that. 😝

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            • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

              RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

              We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

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              #25

              Reminder to anyone managing a #ActivityPub project that matrix has been adopted as the chat solution by bookwyrm, write.as, friendica, plume, pleroma, fedilab, funkwhale, mitra, forgefed, mobilizon, phanpy, tokodon, moshidon, lemmy, gotosocial, bonfire, voyager, tusky, lemmy, loops, piefed, pixelfed, manyfold, owncast and others. You don't need to start from scratch if you leave discord : join us on matrix!

              @Gargron

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              • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

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                #26

                @Gargron

                Make sure you use a different account name if you submit yourself to 1984 dystopia, so you screw up facial recognition subversion.

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                • targrus@mast.targrus.orgT targrus@mast.targrus.org

                  @Gargron .. I had not seen Zulip before. Thank you for putting it on my radar. 👀

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                  @targrus @Gargron Same. Also, thanks to this Discord affair, I learned about Stoat (formerly Revolt) https://stoat.chat

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                  • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                    RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                    We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

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                    @Gargron Thank you for the move and for talking about this publicly!

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                    • dmian@mastodon.socialD dmian@mastodon.social

                      @targrus @Gargron Same. Also, thanks to this Discord affair, I learned about Stoat (formerly Revolt) https://stoat.chat

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                      #29

                      @dmian I too had bookmarked this to see what other options folks were mentioning. Though personally I think the vibes are really off with Stoat. I don't think a one to one recreation of Discord is where I'd wanna go either.

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                      • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                        RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                        We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

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                        @Gargron Never heard of that one..

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                        • lutindiscret@mastodon.libre-entreprise.comL lutindiscret@mastodon.libre-entreprise.com

                          Reminder to anyone managing a #ActivityPub project that matrix has been adopted as the chat solution by bookwyrm, write.as, friendica, plume, pleroma, fedilab, funkwhale, mitra, forgefed, mobilizon, phanpy, tokodon, moshidon, lemmy, gotosocial, bonfire, voyager, tusky, lemmy, loops, piefed, pixelfed, manyfold, owncast and others. You don't need to start from scratch if you leave discord : join us on matrix!

                          @Gargron

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                          @lutindiscret @Gargron Well maybe they didn't want to manage another Fedi service. So they chose a different option.

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                          • grishka@friends.grishka.meG grishka@friends.grishka.me

                            I don't understand why all centralized services suddenly insist on actually verifying their users' age for real. What was wrong with asking for a birth date or even just presenting a "yes I'm 18 or older" button? NSFW websites somehow still do just fine with that, but Discord, which is much less "risky" in comparison, somehow needs real verification?

                            Gosh I miss the old internet.

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                            @grishka @Gargron I'm thinking it's to avoid problems with the government if it were to come to them having to come in.

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                            • angelascholder@mastodon.energyA angelascholder@mastodon.energy

                              @Gargron Never heard of that one..

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                              @AngelaScholder @Gargron

                              zulip is excellent. good software and seems like a good group of folks at the company.

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                              • waltbaldwin@mastodon.energyW waltbaldwin@mastodon.energy

                                @AngelaScholder @Gargron

                                zulip is excellent. good software and seems like a good group of folks at the company.

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                                @waltbaldwin @Gargron Tnx. With the @DutchWhovianCommunity there is a Discord server for the community, so I'm curious what the impact of the changes is going to be there.

                                But, also for other security and privacy reasons it most likely be a good thing to move away from Discord. But then, a large part of the community is also still mainly on Failbook and Instagram.
                                On Mastodon it's still a very small group.

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                                • pounce@nyan.networkP pounce@nyan.network
                                  @Gargron don't forget us IRC folks have been working to reach feature parity with discord the whole time that people have been moving away from it

                                  it's a pretty good alternative these days!
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                                  @pounce @Gargron What are some of the features IRC is implementing these days that would be appealing to Discord users?

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                                  • pounce@nyan.networkP pounce@nyan.network
                                    @Gargron don't forget us IRC folks have been working to reach feature parity with discord the whole time that people have been moving away from it

                                    it's a pretty good alternative these days!
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                                    @pounce @Gargron better to plug xmpp I'd say, open internet standard with a much healthier ecosystem. No shade to IRC, many great communities there that I engage with via bridge.

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                                    • targrus@mast.targrus.orgT targrus@mast.targrus.org

                                      @Gargron .. I had not seen Zulip before. Thank you for putting it on my radar. 👀

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                                      @targrus @Gargron I'm standing up a Zulip right now, so I'm happy to see others choose it as well.

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                                      • incentive@mastodon.circlewithadot.netI incentive@mastodon.circlewithadot.net

                                        @pounce @Gargron What are some of the features IRC is implementing these days that would be appealing to Discord users?

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                                        @incentive@mastodon.circlewithadot.net @Gargron@mastodon.social
                                        https://ircv3.net/ has some good information, but to name a few i don't think many people know about:

                                        • persistent history (now integrated into several ircds and most clients)
                                        • seamless image/file upload from the app
                                        • multi-line and -paragraph messages
                                        • utf-8
                                        • typing indicators
                                        • proper replies
                                        • emoji reactions
                                        • in-app registration
                                        • account profile pictures / descriptions / display names
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                                        • pounce@nyan.networkP pounce@nyan.network

                                          @incentive@mastodon.circlewithadot.net @Gargron@mastodon.social
                                          https://ircv3.net/ has some good information, but to name a few i don't think many people know about:

                                          • persistent history (now integrated into several ircds and most clients)
                                          • seamless image/file upload from the app
                                          • multi-line and -paragraph messages
                                          • utf-8
                                          • typing indicators
                                          • proper replies
                                          • emoji reactions
                                          • in-app registration
                                          • account profile pictures / descriptions / display names
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                                          @pounce @Gargron Thanks. Got some learning to do today.

                                          I still use IRC off-and-on but never kept up with protocol updates. Plus I use Polari on Gnome so I'm guessing they have restricted a lot of these features for the sake of minimalism.

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