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  4. We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community.

We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community.

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  • lefteristrip23@mastodon.socialL lefteristrip23@mastodon.social

    @dmian @Gargron to be fair, matrix isn't quite there yet, indeed

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    @lefteristrip23 @Gargron Even if it was, and it will be a mature platform one day, you always need someone to take care of it. It’s the same with everything you install on a server. And sometimes, you’re not eager to do that. 😝

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    • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

      RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

      We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

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      #25

      Reminder to anyone managing a #ActivityPub project that matrix has been adopted as the chat solution by bookwyrm, write.as, friendica, plume, pleroma, fedilab, funkwhale, mitra, forgefed, mobilizon, phanpy, tokodon, moshidon, lemmy, gotosocial, bonfire, voyager, tusky, lemmy, loops, piefed, pixelfed, manyfold, owncast and others. You don't need to start from scratch if you leave discord : join us on matrix!

      @Gargron

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      • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

        RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

        We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

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        @Gargron

        Make sure you use a different account name if you submit yourself to 1984 dystopia, so you screw up facial recognition subversion.

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        • targrus@mast.targrus.orgT targrus@mast.targrus.org

          @Gargron .. I had not seen Zulip before. Thank you for putting it on my radar. 👀

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          @targrus @Gargron Same. Also, thanks to this Discord affair, I learned about Stoat (formerly Revolt) https://stoat.chat

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          • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

            RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

            We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

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            @Gargron Thank you for the move and for talking about this publicly!

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            • dmian@mastodon.socialD dmian@mastodon.social

              @targrus @Gargron Same. Also, thanks to this Discord affair, I learned about Stoat (formerly Revolt) https://stoat.chat

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              #29

              @dmian I too had bookmarked this to see what other options folks were mentioning. Though personally I think the vibes are really off with Stoat. I don't think a one to one recreation of Discord is where I'd wanna go either.

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              • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

                angelascholder@mastodon.energyA This user is from outside of this forum
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                @Gargron Never heard of that one..

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                • lutindiscret@mastodon.libre-entreprise.comL lutindiscret@mastodon.libre-entreprise.com

                  Reminder to anyone managing a #ActivityPub project that matrix has been adopted as the chat solution by bookwyrm, write.as, friendica, plume, pleroma, fedilab, funkwhale, mitra, forgefed, mobilizon, phanpy, tokodon, moshidon, lemmy, gotosocial, bonfire, voyager, tusky, lemmy, loops, piefed, pixelfed, manyfold, owncast and others. You don't need to start from scratch if you leave discord : join us on matrix!

                  @Gargron

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                  #31

                  @lutindiscret @Gargron Well maybe they didn't want to manage another Fedi service. So they chose a different option.

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                  • grishka@friends.grishka.meG grishka@friends.grishka.me

                    I don't understand why all centralized services suddenly insist on actually verifying their users' age for real. What was wrong with asking for a birth date or even just presenting a "yes I'm 18 or older" button? NSFW websites somehow still do just fine with that, but Discord, which is much less "risky" in comparison, somehow needs real verification?

                    Gosh I miss the old internet.

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                    @grishka @Gargron I'm thinking it's to avoid problems with the government if it were to come to them having to come in.

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                    • angelascholder@mastodon.energyA angelascholder@mastodon.energy

                      @Gargron Never heard of that one..

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                      @AngelaScholder @Gargron

                      zulip is excellent. good software and seems like a good group of folks at the company.

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                      • waltbaldwin@mastodon.energyW waltbaldwin@mastodon.energy

                        @AngelaScholder @Gargron

                        zulip is excellent. good software and seems like a good group of folks at the company.

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                        #34

                        @waltbaldwin @Gargron Tnx. With the @DutchWhovianCommunity there is a Discord server for the community, so I'm curious what the impact of the changes is going to be there.

                        But, also for other security and privacy reasons it most likely be a good thing to move away from Discord. But then, a large part of the community is also still mainly on Failbook and Instagram.
                        On Mastodon it's still a very small group.

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                        • pounce@nyan.networkP pounce@nyan.network
                          @Gargron don't forget us IRC folks have been working to reach feature parity with discord the whole time that people have been moving away from it

                          it's a pretty good alternative these days!
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                          @pounce @Gargron What are some of the features IRC is implementing these days that would be appealing to Discord users?

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                          • pounce@nyan.networkP pounce@nyan.network
                            @Gargron don't forget us IRC folks have been working to reach feature parity with discord the whole time that people have been moving away from it

                            it's a pretty good alternative these days!
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                            @pounce @Gargron better to plug xmpp I'd say, open internet standard with a much healthier ecosystem. No shade to IRC, many great communities there that I engage with via bridge.

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                            • targrus@mast.targrus.orgT targrus@mast.targrus.org

                              @Gargron .. I had not seen Zulip before. Thank you for putting it on my radar. 👀

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                              @targrus @Gargron I'm standing up a Zulip right now, so I'm happy to see others choose it as well.

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                              • incentive@mastodon.circlewithadot.netI incentive@mastodon.circlewithadot.net

                                @pounce @Gargron What are some of the features IRC is implementing these days that would be appealing to Discord users?

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                                @incentive@mastodon.circlewithadot.net @Gargron@mastodon.social
                                https://ircv3.net/ has some good information, but to name a few i don't think many people know about:

                                • persistent history (now integrated into several ircds and most clients)
                                • seamless image/file upload from the app
                                • multi-line and -paragraph messages
                                • utf-8
                                • typing indicators
                                • proper replies
                                • emoji reactions
                                • in-app registration
                                • account profile pictures / descriptions / display names
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                                • pounce@nyan.networkP pounce@nyan.network

                                  @incentive@mastodon.circlewithadot.net @Gargron@mastodon.social
                                  https://ircv3.net/ has some good information, but to name a few i don't think many people know about:

                                  • persistent history (now integrated into several ircds and most clients)
                                  • seamless image/file upload from the app
                                  • multi-line and -paragraph messages
                                  • utf-8
                                  • typing indicators
                                  • proper replies
                                  • emoji reactions
                                  • in-app registration
                                  • account profile pictures / descriptions / display names
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                                  #39

                                  @pounce @Gargron Thanks. Got some learning to do today.

                                  I still use IRC off-and-on but never kept up with protocol updates. Plus I use Polari on Gnome so I'm guessing they have restricted a lot of these features for the sake of minimalism.

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                                  • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                                    RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                    We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

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                                    @Gargron I'm surprised that you hadn't yet gone full libre in regards to your infrastructure. This also means you should reconsider moving out of Github for releases in the near future.
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                                    • lefteristrip23@mastodon.socialL lefteristrip23@mastodon.social

                                      @Gargron why not matrix?

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                                      @lefteristrip23 Far from 1:1 feature parity. No integrated voice or video in most implementations (leveraging Jitsi or something similar in many cases) is a big knock against Matrix.

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                                        @grishka "for the children" /s

                                        It's because they want to know who you are, and they want to be able to attribute you to other services where this identity is known to build out their web of surveillance.

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                                        • lutindiscret@mastodon.libre-entreprise.comL lutindiscret@mastodon.libre-entreprise.com

                                          Reminder to anyone managing a #ActivityPub project that matrix has been adopted as the chat solution by bookwyrm, write.as, friendica, plume, pleroma, fedilab, funkwhale, mitra, forgefed, mobilizon, phanpy, tokodon, moshidon, lemmy, gotosocial, bonfire, voyager, tusky, lemmy, loops, piefed, pixelfed, manyfold, owncast and others. You don't need to start from scratch if you leave discord : join us on matrix!

                                          @Gargron

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                                          @lutindiscret @Gargron I wish Matrix worked at all

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