interesting thought/discussion question: do you think Apple will make it to 100?
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@trashpandaqc oh, has it been abandoned at this point? i think Reaktor's officially dead but folks tend to stick with what they know & obviously can do with using older tools for plenty of time, if motivated. if i'd fallen a little more in love with AudioMulch i might've went that route myself, but i definitely got on well with Ableton once i got over that initial learning curve for it. (Ableton 7, i think?)
@tsrono @oscillik @eczem not abandoned, but the latest update "improved" the GUI with this non-skeuomorphic scheme that hides some of the info unless you mouseover, I hate it (comparison below). so far the old one is still usable...
Bidule doesn't seem to have many users tho, the devs are pretty clear it's a side project / never officially been "1.0." so idk, at this point I feel like PD will always be maintained & might eventually be necessary if MacOS or Plogue themselves break more stuff


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@tsrono @oscillik @eczem not abandoned, but the latest update "improved" the GUI with this non-skeuomorphic scheme that hides some of the info unless you mouseover, I hate it (comparison below). so far the old one is still usable...
Bidule doesn't seem to have many users tho, the devs are pretty clear it's a side project / never officially been "1.0." so idk, at this point I feel like PD will always be maintained & might eventually be necessary if MacOS or Plogue themselves break more stuff


@trashpandaqc hmm yeah i can't say i like the look of either at first glance but that sort of thing is down to ease of use far more than it is to which just 'looks' better out of context.
but if it's been around for ~10 years & it's still just sorta 'side project' status, that's not a great sign.such is the way when it comes to not 'pro-level' software tho, to be expected almost (tho like you mention, there's other options at the least)