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  3. I recently have friends that would not leave Meta suddenly emailing me and or texting me because they were/are banned or suspended and are amazed they can get ahold of me very easily even though I am not on a walled garden.

I recently have friends that would not leave Meta suddenly emailing me and or texting me because they were/are banned or suspended and are amazed they can get ahold of me very easily even though I am not on a walled garden.

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  • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

    I recently have friends that would not leave Meta suddenly emailing me and or texting me because they were/are banned or suspended and are amazed they can get ahold of me very easily even though I am not on a walled garden. Reminds me of Maybe we should SMS again., Sightless Scribbles https://sightlessscribbles.com/posts/6552/ #Email #SMS

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    @WeirdWriter I'm in a similar situation, well, without a website or FB account, but similar, and agree wholeheartedly.

    But there's a detail that I'm beginning to see here (in Spain) that's making SMS less "universal": Many people is now on plans without free SMSs, and at the same time, the big orgs, headed by google, are rolling out their RCS thing which is advertised as "free and better and very open" but in fact is closed.

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    Messaging with RCS on Android: What You Need to Know | Android

    Discover RCS on Android, upgrade your conversations with high-resolution images, interactive elements, and more! Learn how to enable RCS, its features, and how it compares to SMS.

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    But: https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/1/24087418/google-messages-blocking-rcs-on-rooted-android-devices

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    • jandi@mastodon.socialJ jandi@mastodon.social

      @WeirdWriter I'm in a similar situation, well, without a website or FB account, but similar, and agree wholeheartedly.

      But there's a detail that I'm beginning to see here (in Spain) that's making SMS less "universal": Many people is now on plans without free SMSs, and at the same time, the big orgs, headed by google, are rolling out their RCS thing which is advertised as "free and better and very open" but in fact is closed.

      Link Preview Image
      Messaging with RCS on Android: What You Need to Know | Android

      Discover RCS on Android, upgrade your conversations with high-resolution images, interactive elements, and more! Learn how to enable RCS, its features, and how it compares to SMS.

      favicon

      Android (www.android.com)

      But: https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/1/24087418/google-messages-blocking-rcs-on-rooted-android-devices

      weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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      @jandi What about Jabber? I deeply wish they would move to a thing like #XMPP but i’m honestly just shocked that my friends even realize they can get a hold of me even though I’m not on a closed platform

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      • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

        @jandi What about Jabber? I deeply wish they would move to a thing like #XMPP but i’m honestly just shocked that my friends even realize they can get a hold of me even though I’m not on a closed platform

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        @WeirdWriter@caneandable.social
        I think it is called RCS.
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        • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

          @jandi What about Jabber? I deeply wish they would move to a thing like #XMPP but i’m honestly just shocked that my friends even realize they can get a hold of me even though I’m not on a closed platform

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          @WeirdWriter @martin@social.mdochs.de Yeah, that, we're talking about the same thing.

          And yeah, it's ridiculous how thrilling can be that someone contacts you with just a good old sms, postcard, phone call, email or buzzing at the doorphone!

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          • martin@social.mdosch.deM martin@social.mdosch.de
            @WeirdWriter@caneandable.social
            I think it is called RCS.
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            @martin @WeirdWriter @jandi so, the thing about RCS is that there's one (1) application that works with it, available only on one (1) type of phones.
            Also I heard of a case where even if you do have that type of phone (android) and that application (Google Messages, say hello to Gemini), a phone company here managed to make it so that RCS works only with people who have phone number with the same company. You will not be able to message using RCS someone using another phone company.

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            • viq@social.hackerspace.plV viq@social.hackerspace.pl

              @martin @WeirdWriter @jandi so, the thing about RCS is that there's one (1) application that works with it, available only on one (1) type of phones.
              Also I heard of a case where even if you do have that type of phone (android) and that application (Google Messages, say hello to Gemini), a phone company here managed to make it so that RCS works only with people who have phone number with the same company. You will not be able to message using RCS someone using another phone company.

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              @viq @martin @WeirdWriter It's even more complicated. I took a look recently at the troubles of implementing it in this epic issue with a $14999 bounty: https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/issues/2994

              But let's not hijack this thread. Suffice to say that Robert's point still stands.

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              • viq@social.hackerspace.plV viq@social.hackerspace.pl

                @martin @WeirdWriter @jandi so, the thing about RCS is that there's one (1) application that works with it, available only on one (1) type of phones.
                Also I heard of a case where even if you do have that type of phone (android) and that application (Google Messages, say hello to Gemini), a phone company here managed to make it so that RCS works only with people who have phone number with the same company. You will not be able to message using RCS someone using another phone company.

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                Oh that sucks! Makes me wish more people would use #xmpp honestly. @viq @martin @jandi

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                • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                  Oh that sucks! Makes me wish more people would use #xmpp honestly. @viq @martin @jandi

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                  @WeirdWriter @martin @jandi #matrix seems to be getting more traction 🤷

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                  • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                    I recently have friends that would not leave Meta suddenly emailing me and or texting me because they were/are banned or suspended and are amazed they can get ahold of me very easily even though I am not on a walled garden. Reminds me of Maybe we should SMS again., Sightless Scribbles https://sightlessscribbles.com/posts/6552/ #Email #SMS

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                    @WeirdWriter I've had the same cell phone number for as long as I've had a phone. I also use signal, and email. I have briar, xmpp too... most people I know use either signal or email to reach me but there's only a few that try to reach me at all these days...

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                    • ailurocrat@scicomm.xyzA ailurocrat@scicomm.xyz

                      @WeirdWriter I've had the same cell phone number for as long as I've had a phone. I also use signal, and email. I have briar, xmpp too... most people I know use either signal or email to reach me but there's only a few that try to reach me at all these days...

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                      @ailurocrat Ah yep I have Signal too!

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                      • viq@social.hackerspace.plV viq@social.hackerspace.pl

                        @WeirdWriter @martin @jandi #matrix seems to be getting more traction 🤷

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                        @viq@hackerspace.pl
                        I also still prefer #xmpp. I would not want to host matrix, but xmpp is very lightweight and also faster. 🙂
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