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"Russia’s economy minister admits ‘reserves have largely been used up’ while communist lawmaker warns of 1917-style revolution as #GDP shrinks"

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  • bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.clubB bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.club

    @benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth I'd like to agree ; but I'm really not convincing anyone, just annoying my friends who will further ignore everything I say.

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    #62

    @bridgeenjoyer @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

    i'll give you my brutally honest response:

    fuck your friends, your friends fucking suck. whiny useless cynics suck

    find new friends

    really. fuck entitled lumps

    i know that's easy for me to say. but empty cynics will only grind your gears in the end, so a soft retreat at least is coming anyways

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    • bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.clubB bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.club

      @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth they dont do politics until it affects them.

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      #63

      @bridgeenjoyer @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

      If we yell enough, bludgeon enough maybe just maybe we could get 1 or 2 to plan ahead a bit. Alaskan Natives have the idea that if you are going to make changes big changes you need to look at what those changes will do over the next 7 generations.

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

        the answer to

        "i don't do politics"

        is simple:

        "but politics does you

        so you better engage, or you will be engaged with on the chosen terms of bigot fascist ghouls who got in power because you ignored politics"

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        #64

        @benroyce @Clutha @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

        🤣 😂 🤣 😂 That's just too simple.

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          #65

          @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

          No matter what we think there is no good government. The absolute best is one that "does the least harm". Like that?

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

            the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is NOT democratic

            the National Socialist German Workers' Party was NOT socialist

            etc

            people forget:

            1. the historical evolution of a country or party
            2. ideological terms are complex with muddy contradictory meanings
            3. that propaganda will paint an ideological term in an unfair light

            then people will spend twenty years arguing about fucking terminology and forget real issues

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            @benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth My favourite example of this is countries that have chosen to add the word "United" to their names.

            Often such countries are like a couple who constantly argue but defer getting divorced by having more children.

            This keeps them from having to confront the fact that they should never have got together in the first place.

            All that remains holding them together is a mutual dislike of their neighbours.

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            • screwturn@mastodon.socialS screwturn@mastodon.social

              @benroyce

              Very much a "white savior will come to rescue us" flavor in there.
              American voters need to wake up and realize that it is THEIR job to find and pick good candidates, not some party leadership or deity.

              @crcollins @spreadthetruth @retech

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              #67

              @screwturn @benroyce @crcollins @spreadthetruth @retech WTP have sent this “great white hope” into the ring twice.
              And he’s failed both times!
              What does that say about WTP?

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                @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                Read Turnbuls "The Forest People"!

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                  the answer to

                  "i don't do politics"

                  is simple:

                  "but politics does you

                  so you better engage, or you will be engaged with on the chosen terms of bigot fascist ghouls who got in power because you ignored politics"

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                  #69

                  @benroyce @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                  "Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you"

                  (Pericles of Athens, BC 430 )

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech

                    every state has different rules about who can #vote in the #primary

                    you got closed, partially closed, partially open, open to unaffiliated voters, open, multi-party, etc

                    it's fucking complicated, and part of our problem with voting in general in the #USA because people are never educated about it and never figure it out

                    it still doesn't mean they are free of blame IF THEY DON'T FUCKING VOTE IN THE #PRIMARIES

                    educate yourself AND VOTE

                    Just a moment...

                    favicon

                    (www.ncsl.org)

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                    @benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech in #wyoming almost every office is chosen in the Primary and they’re almost always republicans This will be a very difficult state to turn even slightly purple.

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                    • horqua@mastodon.socialH horqua@mastodon.social

                      @benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech in #wyoming almost every office is chosen in the Primary and they’re almost always republicans This will be a very difficult state to turn even slightly purple.

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                      @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech

                      you still have the option of vandalism or sabotage through primary voting

                      in party or across party lines

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech

                        you still have the option of vandalism or sabotage through primary voting

                        in party or across party lines

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                        @benroyce @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech My state isn’t quite as red as Wyoming, but I seriously considered registering Republican in 2024 long enough to try to vote for the least worst. In the end, I decided it was more to my advantage to select Dems in local gov races (county, city). But that’s the thing I’d encourage everyone to do… look at the ballot and be strategic and make a choice. Don’t be passive.

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                          @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                          (My ride is in garage till the ice is gone).

                          What pisses me off is we could have had what they have. The basic economics was in place, people were beginning to do well, even business was making money. We fought for civil right race & sex, education expansion. The right has been fighting ever since FDR to gain total control & bring back the depression. They finally did it.

                          Peace

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                          • the_wub@mastodon.socialT the_wub@mastodon.social

                            @benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth My favourite example of this is countries that have chosen to add the word "United" to their names.

                            Often such countries are like a couple who constantly argue but defer getting divorced by having more children.

                            This keeps them from having to confront the fact that they should never have got together in the first place.

                            All that remains holding them together is a mutual dislike of their neighbours.

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                            @the_wub @benroyce @the5thColumnist @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth Mexico's full name is Los Estados Unidos de Mexico

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                              "Because you know you will survive"

                              most of those cosplaying revolutionary will not survive a real revolution

                              furthermore, revolutions are not bastions of ideological purity. whoever wins could be worse. even if by some miracle something better does win, the new regime will still deal with impotent purists whining "but i want perfect, waah"

                              toxic idealists who bizarrely defer to revolution are excuse making for their own uselessness

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                              @benroyce @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                              They also seem to think it'll be just a jaunty weekend of bloodshed and then we all just roll over to whoever is on top after that. No, an actual revolution will take a decade of unspeakable horrors unfolding in their time. The rest of your life will be terrible. Your children's lives might be normal eventually. Only the grandchildren stand any chance of living better once that line is crossed.

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                              • skotchygut@social.seattle.wa.usS skotchygut@social.seattle.wa.us

                                @benroyce @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                                They also seem to think it'll be just a jaunty weekend of bloodshed and then we all just roll over to whoever is on top after that. No, an actual revolution will take a decade of unspeakable horrors unfolding in their time. The rest of your life will be terrible. Your children's lives might be normal eventually. Only the grandchildren stand any chance of living better once that line is crossed.

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                                @skotchygut @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                                revolution cosplayers suffer from main character syndrome and think it will be like a movie

                                and they believe, hilariously, that the factions will be ideologically rigorous

                                none of this excuses our current suffering

                                it means they should be *effective* about fixing it rather than retreating into a cringe fantasy life (hint: VOTE)

                                and revolution happens when people are hungry. there is hunger in the usa but we're far from general famine

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @skotchygut @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                                  revolution cosplayers suffer from main character syndrome and think it will be like a movie

                                  and they believe, hilariously, that the factions will be ideologically rigorous

                                  none of this excuses our current suffering

                                  it means they should be *effective* about fixing it rather than retreating into a cringe fantasy life (hint: VOTE)

                                  and revolution happens when people are hungry. there is hunger in the usa but we're far from general famine

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                                  @benroyce @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                                  unfortunately, retreating into a cringe fantasy life is, if not the American dream, then at least the American past time.

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                                  • scottmiller42@mstdn.socialS scottmiller42@mstdn.social

                                    @benroyce @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech My state isn’t quite as red as Wyoming, but I seriously considered registering Republican in 2024 long enough to try to vote for the least worst. In the end, I decided it was more to my advantage to select Dems in local gov races (county, city). But that’s the thing I’d encourage everyone to do… look at the ballot and be strategic and make a choice. Don’t be passive.

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                                    @scottmiller42 @benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech The position of thw #WyoDems is party switching in ineffective. Here’s an essay on that topic: https://wyodems.net/dont-touch-that-switch/

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                                    • horqua@mastodon.socialH horqua@mastodon.social

                                      @scottmiller42 @benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech The position of thw #WyoDems is party switching in ineffective. Here’s an essay on that topic: https://wyodems.net/dont-touch-that-switch/

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                                      @horqua @scottmiller42 @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech

                                      in states where you can vote in primaries outside your party, i encourage such sabotage and vandalism. but this is a sideshow. the main game should be declare your party and contribute

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                                      • horqua@mastodon.socialH horqua@mastodon.social

                                        @scottmiller42 @benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech The position of thw #WyoDems is party switching in ineffective. Here’s an essay on that topic: https://wyodems.net/dont-touch-that-switch/

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                                        @horqua @benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech In Iowa, you can literally change party the day of the primary, then mail your post card to chargeback the same night.

                                        Regarding that letter, seems like their main point against switching for primary is you can’t switch until after the general, but so what? You can still vote for whomever you want on the ballot, right? I get how that may muck things up a bit for canvassing, soliciting donations, GOTV. Is that the real reason?

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                                        • scottmiller42@mstdn.socialS scottmiller42@mstdn.social

                                          @horqua @benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech In Iowa, you can literally change party the day of the primary, then mail your post card to chargeback the same night.

                                          Regarding that letter, seems like their main point against switching for primary is you can’t switch until after the general, but so what? You can still vote for whomever you want on the ballot, right? I get how that may muck things up a bit for canvassing, soliciting donations, GOTV. Is that the real reason?

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                                          @scottmiller42 @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech

                                          well there is something to be said for putting your honest foot forward so you can build something

                                          your way has value, but it's more like guerilla warfare. rather than what we really need: actual political takeover

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