"Russia’s economy minister admits ‘reserves have largely been used up’ while communist lawmaker warns of 1917-style revolution as #GDP shrinks"

[farbel@mas.to]

@benroyce @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth "the new regime will still deal with impotent purists whining "but i want perfect, waah" jajajajaja, so true.

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is NOT democratic

the National Socialist German Workers' Party was NOT socialist

etc

people forget:

1. the historical evolution of a country or party
2. ideological terms are complex with muddy contradictory meanings
3. that propaganda will paint an ideological term in an unfair light

then people will spend twenty years arguing about fucking terminology and forget real issues

[a_minion@mastodon.social]

@farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

There is no real communism, socialism, democracy, capitalism or any of the other myriad of political constructs. The only way to build a government that is 'for the people' is to start at the bottom & ask the people. Build from the bottom up not the top down. Figure out what to call it after it's done. I lean toward a Democracy however the people define it.

[farbel@mas.to]

@A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth "start at the bottom & ask the people." That is voting. Unfortunately a whole lot of people shrug and say "I dunno." or "I don't care." A whole lot more are manipulated into voting against their own interests, and another majority don't understand that, in a democracy, nobody gets everything thery want, so they stay home and bitch instead of doing the work.

[farbel@mas.to]

@A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth I would also say that communism, socialism and capitalism are economic constructs, not political. Democracy and authoritarianism and fascism are political constructs.

[a_minion@mastodon.social]

@farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

Won't argue but they get so crossed up that it seems they are all trying to do the same things. No matter what kind of Political theory there is an attached economic platform. They go hand in hand. The KISS principle.

[bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.club]

@benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth people (especially Americans) are generally not smart, and only believe what talking heads on networks owned by a corrupt billionaire tell them.

What's an Americans average reading comprehension level again, 5th grade? Yeah, we are cooked. No wonder we are headed for full on fascism.

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@bridgeenjoyer @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

i agree except with your conclusion

cynicism is self-fulfilling prophecy

we fight

we always fight

and any argument against fighting, such as cynicism, only aids fascism

[bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.club]

@benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth I'd like to agree ; but I'm really not convincing anyone, just annoying my friends who will further ignore everything I say.

[bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.club]

@Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth they dont do politics until it affects them.

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

the answer to

"i don't do politics"

is simple:

"but politics does you

so you better engage, or you will be engaged with on the chosen terms of bigot fascist ghouls who got in power because you ignored politics"

[a_minion@mastodon.social]

@farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

Yup, so that is why Ben and several others are up here is to push, beg, convince, cajole, intimidate, scream to get people to vote

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@bridgeenjoyer @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

i'll give you my brutally honest response:

fuck your friends, your friends fucking suck. whiny useless cynics suck

find new friends

really. fuck entitled lumps

i know that's easy for me to say. but empty cynics will only grind your gears in the end, so a soft retreat at least is coming anyways

[a_minion@mastodon.social]

@bridgeenjoyer @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

If we yell enough, bludgeon enough maybe just maybe we could get 1 or 2 to plan ahead a bit. Alaskan Natives have the idea that if you are going to make changes big changes you need to look at what those changes will do over the next 7 generations.

[a_minion@mastodon.social]

@benroyce @Clutha @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

That's just too simple.

[a_minion@mastodon.social]

@Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

No matter what we think there is no good government. The absolute best is one that "does the least harm". Like that?

[the_wub@mastodon.social]

@benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth My favourite example of this is countries that have chosen to add the word "United" to their names.

Often such countries are like a couple who constantly argue but defer getting divorced by having more children.

This keeps them from having to confront the fact that they should never have got together in the first place.

All that remains holding them together is a mutual dislike of their neighbours.

[horqua@mastodon.social]

@screwturn @benroyce @crcollins @spreadthetruth @retech WTP have sent this “great white hope” into the ring twice.
And he’s failed both times!
What does that say about WTP?

[a_minion@mastodon.social]

@Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

Read Turnbuls "The Forest People"!

[lemgandi@mastodon.social]

@benroyce @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

"Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you"

(Pericles of Athens, BC 430 )