"Russia’s economy minister admits ‘reserves have largely been used up’ while communist lawmaker warns of 1917-style revolution as #GDP shrinks"
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@retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth Performative cynicism will get us nowhere. Generalization will get us nowhere. There are no pure socialist societies. There are no pure capitalist ones either. They are all blends. Intelligent participation adjusts the blend for the better. There is nothing more privileged than calling for revolution, to burn it all down. Because you know you will survive. Want people to vote? Stop telling them their vote doesn't matter.
@farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
And just because a country calls itself, socialist, or democratic, or even a republic, does not mean it is one.
(and beware f those that think that being a republic and a democracy are mutually exclusive)
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@retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth Performative cynicism will get us nowhere. Generalization will get us nowhere. There are no pure socialist societies. There are no pure capitalist ones either. They are all blends. Intelligent participation adjusts the blend for the better. There is nothing more privileged than calling for revolution, to burn it all down. Because you know you will survive. Want people to vote? Stop telling them their vote doesn't matter.
@farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
"Because you know you will survive"
most of those cosplaying revolutionary will not survive a real revolution
furthermore, revolutions are not bastions of ideological purity. whoever wins could be worse. even if by some miracle something better does win, the new regime will still deal with impotent purists whining "but i want perfect, waah"
toxic idealists who bizarrely defer to revolution are excuse making for their own uselessness
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@benroyce @DonChacale @farbel @spreadthetruth I just deleted what I said. It will only muddy the waters.
@retech @DonChacale @farbel @spreadthetruth
ok but you said women, not the woman
you should make your point in a general fashion. because you're going to get accused of misogyny, and that would be a fair accusation because of your wording
and you didn't have to delete it, just remove the unnecessary gendering
it was really bizarre
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@farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
"Because you know you will survive"
most of those cosplaying revolutionary will not survive a real revolution
furthermore, revolutions are not bastions of ideological purity. whoever wins could be worse. even if by some miracle something better does win, the new regime will still deal with impotent purists whining "but i want perfect, waah"
toxic idealists who bizarrely defer to revolution are excuse making for their own uselessness
@benroyce @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth "the new regime will still deal with impotent purists whining "but i want perfect, waah" jajajajaja, so true.
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@farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
And just because a country calls itself, socialist, or democratic, or even a republic, does not mean it is one.
(and beware f those that think that being a republic and a democracy are mutually exclusive)
@the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is NOT democratic
the National Socialist German Workers' Party was NOT socialist
etc
people forget:
1. the historical evolution of a country or party
2. ideological terms are complex with muddy contradictory meanings
3. that propaganda will paint an ideological term in an unfair lightthen people will spend twenty years arguing about fucking terminology and forget real issues
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@retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth Performative cynicism will get us nowhere. Generalization will get us nowhere. There are no pure socialist societies. There are no pure capitalist ones either. They are all blends. Intelligent participation adjusts the blend for the better. There is nothing more privileged than calling for revolution, to burn it all down. Because you know you will survive. Want people to vote? Stop telling them their vote doesn't matter.
@farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
There is no real communism, socialism, democracy, capitalism or any of the other myriad of political constructs. The only way to build a government that is 'for the people' is to start at the bottom & ask the people. Build from the bottom up not the top down. Figure out what to call it after it's done. I lean toward a Democracy however the people define it.
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@farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
There is no real communism, socialism, democracy, capitalism or any of the other myriad of political constructs. The only way to build a government that is 'for the people' is to start at the bottom & ask the people. Build from the bottom up not the top down. Figure out what to call it after it's done. I lean toward a Democracy however the people define it.
@A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth "start at the bottom & ask the people." That is voting. Unfortunately a whole lot of people shrug and say "I dunno." or "I don't care." A whole lot more are manipulated into voting against their own interests, and another majority don't understand that, in a democracy, nobody gets everything thery want, so they stay home and bitch instead of doing the work.
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@farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
There is no real communism, socialism, democracy, capitalism or any of the other myriad of political constructs. The only way to build a government that is 'for the people' is to start at the bottom & ask the people. Build from the bottom up not the top down. Figure out what to call it after it's done. I lean toward a Democracy however the people define it.
@A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth I would also say that communism, socialism and capitalism are economic constructs, not political. Democracy and authoritarianism and fascism are political constructs.
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@A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth I would also say that communism, socialism and capitalism are economic constructs, not political. Democracy and authoritarianism and fascism are political constructs.
@farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
Won't argue but they get so crossed up that it seems they are all trying to do the same things. No matter what kind of Political theory there is an attached economic platform. They go hand in hand. The KISS principle.
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@the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is NOT democratic
the National Socialist German Workers' Party was NOT socialist
etc
people forget:
1. the historical evolution of a country or party
2. ideological terms are complex with muddy contradictory meanings
3. that propaganda will paint an ideological term in an unfair lightthen people will spend twenty years arguing about fucking terminology and forget real issues
@benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth people (especially Americans) are generally not smart, and only believe what talking heads on networks owned by a corrupt billionaire tell them.
What's an Americans average reading comprehension level again, 5th grade? Yeah, we are cooked. No wonder we are headed for full on fascism.
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@benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth people (especially Americans) are generally not smart, and only believe what talking heads on networks owned by a corrupt billionaire tell them.
What's an Americans average reading comprehension level again, 5th grade? Yeah, we are cooked. No wonder we are headed for full on fascism.
@bridgeenjoyer @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
i agree except with your conclusion
cynicism is self-fulfilling prophecy
we fight
we always fight
and any argument against fighting, such as cynicism, only aids fascism
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@bridgeenjoyer @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
i agree except with your conclusion
cynicism is self-fulfilling prophecy
we fight
we always fight
and any argument against fighting, such as cynicism, only aids fascism
@benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth I'd like to agree ; but I'm really not convincing anyone, just annoying my friends who will further ignore everything I say.
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@Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth they dont do politics until it affects them.
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@Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
the answer to
"i don't do politics"
is simple:
"but politics does you
so you better engage, or you will be engaged with on the chosen terms of bigot fascist ghouls who got in power because you ignored politics"
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@A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth "start at the bottom & ask the people." That is voting. Unfortunately a whole lot of people shrug and say "I dunno." or "I don't care." A whole lot more are manipulated into voting against their own interests, and another majority don't understand that, in a democracy, nobody gets everything thery want, so they stay home and bitch instead of doing the work.
@farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
Yup, so that is why Ben and several others are up here is to push, beg, convince, cajole, intimidate, scream to get people to vote
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@benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth I'd like to agree ; but I'm really not convincing anyone, just annoying my friends who will further ignore everything I say.
@bridgeenjoyer @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
i'll give you my brutally honest response:
fuck your friends, your friends fucking suck. whiny useless cynics suck
find new friends
really. fuck entitled lumps
i know that's easy for me to say. but empty cynics will only grind your gears in the end, so a soft retreat at least is coming anyways
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@Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth they dont do politics until it affects them.
@bridgeenjoyer @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
If we yell enough, bludgeon enough maybe just maybe we could get 1 or 2 to plan ahead a bit. Alaskan Natives have the idea that if you are going to make changes big changes you need to look at what those changes will do over the next 7 generations.
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@Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
the answer to
"i don't do politics"
is simple:
"but politics does you
so you better engage, or you will be engaged with on the chosen terms of bigot fascist ghouls who got in power because you ignored politics"
@benroyce @Clutha @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
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@Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
No matter what we think there is no good government. The absolute best is one that "does the least harm". Like that?
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@the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is NOT democratic
the National Socialist German Workers' Party was NOT socialist
etc
people forget:
1. the historical evolution of a country or party
2. ideological terms are complex with muddy contradictory meanings
3. that propaganda will paint an ideological term in an unfair lightthen people will spend twenty years arguing about fucking terminology and forget real issues
@benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth My favourite example of this is countries that have chosen to add the word "United" to their names.
Often such countries are like a couple who constantly argue but defer getting divorced by having more children.
This keeps them from having to confront the fact that they should never have got together in the first place.
All that remains holding them together is a mutual dislike of their neighbours.
