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Using #LLMs for coding is so "good" that programmers are now faking using them so they can still write code by hand while making the management happy…

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  • ploum@mamot.frP This user is from outside of this forum
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    Using #LLMs for coding is so "good" that programmers are now faking using them so they can still write code by hand while making the management happy…

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      Using #LLMs for coding is so "good" that programmers are now faking using them so they can still write code by hand while making the management happy…

      slow clap!

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      Subverting AI Agent Logging with a Git Post-Commit Hook

      I keep hearing from developer friends who are 'expected' by their employer to demonstrate that they're using AI, even for tasks at which the AI is demonstrably a suboptimal choice. So - as a joke - I came up with a git post-commit hook that makes it look like they're doing so, even when they're not.

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      tanavit@toot.aquilenet.fr
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      @ploum

      So the managers will convince themselves that AI tools are efficient and will lay off more humans....

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      • ploum@mamot.frP ploum@mamot.fr

        Using #LLMs for coding is so "good" that programmers are now faking using them so they can still write code by hand while making the management happy…

        slow clap!

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        Subverting AI Agent Logging with a Git Post-Commit Hook

        I keep hearing from developer friends who are 'expected' by their employer to demonstrate that they're using AI, even for tasks at which the AI is demonstrably a suboptimal choice. So - as a joke - I came up with a git post-commit hook that makes it look like they're doing so, even when they're not.

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        Dan Q (danq.me)

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        @ploum

        Ça met le code dans le domaine public, c’est cool ça 😀

        https://www.congress.gov/crs_external_products/LSB/PDF/LSB10922/LSB10922.8.pdf

        « AI users do not exercise sufficient control to characterize generative AI as a tool used by an author. Instead, the Copyright Office has compared an AI user to “a client who hires an artist” and gives that artist only “general directions.” »

        (Tant que les propriétaire des modèle ne réclament pas ce droit d’auteur – capitalisme quand tu nous tient)

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        • ploum@mamot.frP ploum@mamot.fr

          Using #LLMs for coding is so "good" that programmers are now faking using them so they can still write code by hand while making the management happy…

          slow clap!

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          Subverting AI Agent Logging with a Git Post-Commit Hook

          I keep hearing from developer friends who are 'expected' by their employer to demonstrate that they're using AI, even for tasks at which the AI is demonstrably a suboptimal choice. So - as a joke - I came up with a git post-commit hook that makes it look like they're doing so, even when they're not.

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          @ploum

          I remember 20 years ago writing code to run in debug windows and I added spinners and progress bars and the folks with OOP responsibilities would ask, "How did you do that?"

          I did that from writing DOS programs.

          Every step forward we lose a little bit of knowledge. I see LLM as killing off working algorithms for New, 'improved', and untried stuff.

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          • ploum@mamot.frP ploum@mamot.fr

            Using #LLMs for coding is so "good" that programmers are now faking using them so they can still write code by hand while making the management happy…

            slow clap!

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            Subverting AI Agent Logging with a Git Post-Commit Hook

            I keep hearing from developer friends who are 'expected' by their employer to demonstrate that they're using AI, even for tasks at which the AI is demonstrably a suboptimal choice. So - as a joke - I came up with a git post-commit hook that makes it look like they're doing so, even when they're not.

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            @ploum Tu devrais creuser le sujet un plus sérieusement plutot que de chercher des articles qui vont dans ton sens et de généraliser.

            Concernant les LLMs pour la programmation, le débat est clos: oui c'est utile et non, on ne peut plus s'en passer

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              Using #LLMs for coding is so "good" that programmers are now faking using them so they can still write code by hand while making the management happy…

              slow clap!

              Link Preview Image
              Subverting AI Agent Logging with a Git Post-Commit Hook

              I keep hearing from developer friends who are 'expected' by their employer to demonstrate that they're using AI, even for tasks at which the AI is demonstrably a suboptimal choice. So - as a joke - I came up with a git post-commit hook that makes it look like they're doing so, even when they're not.

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              @ploum Brilliant. #GiantPileofShit

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                Using #LLMs for coding is so "good" that programmers are now faking using them so they can still write code by hand while making the management happy…

                slow clap!

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                Subverting AI Agent Logging with a Git Post-Commit Hook

                I keep hearing from developer friends who are 'expected' by their employer to demonstrate that they're using AI, even for tasks at which the AI is demonstrably a suboptimal choice. So - as a joke - I came up with a git post-commit hook that makes it look like they're doing so, even when they're not.

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                @ploum confirmation biais at play: most programmers I know are not faking because if they don't use AI, lay off is even faster than when they do.

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                • jb@social.lemee.coJ jb@social.lemee.co

                  @ploum Tu devrais creuser le sujet un plus sérieusement plutot que de chercher des articles qui vont dans ton sens et de généraliser.

                  Concernant les LLMs pour la programmation, le débat est clos: oui c'est utile et non, on ne peut plus s'en passer

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                  @jb 🤣 🤣 🤣 @ploum

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                  • jb@social.lemee.coJ jb@social.lemee.co

                    @ploum Tu devrais creuser le sujet un plus sérieusement plutot que de chercher des articles qui vont dans ton sens et de généraliser.

                    Concernant les LLMs pour la programmation, le débat est clos: oui c'est utile et non, on ne peut plus s'en passer

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                    @jb @ploum Le vrai problème c'est le management qui force les développeurs à utiliser un outil que seuls les développeurs devraient être habilités à choisir et évaluer.

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                      @jb @ploum Le vrai problème c'est le management qui force les développeurs à utiliser un outil que seuls les développeurs devraient être habilités à choisir et évaluer.

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                      @bladecoder @ploum D'accord mais mets toi à la place du manager et de l'entreprise face à deux dev "équivalents" dont l'un fait x2 en productivité et pas l'autre. Difficile de ne pas tenter de convaincre le dev qui ne souhaite pas changer ses outils. Et ensuite économiquement quand la concurrence te rattrappe t'es pas d'autres choix que d'accélerer pareil ou de "purger". Personne n'a le choix, ni les devs, ni les managers, ni les entreprises

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