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  3. thanks to AI demand, Lattice cannot make enough FPGAs to fulfill orders on iCE40's (and probably ECP5's) with less than a year of lead time.

thanks to AI demand, Lattice cannot make enough FPGAs to fulfill orders on iCE40's (and probably ECP5's) with less than a year of lead time.

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  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

    @lynne you would think so, but there's a worldwide shortage of the stuff now

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    @lynne specifically of the epoxy resin, which is only manufactured in a few places in the world

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    • henearxn@chaos.socialH henearxn@chaos.social

      @lynne @whitequark funnily enough apparently one of the major producers of this stuff is a company primarily making sauces and other seasoning, which at some point branched out into making packaging materials as a side thing...

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      @HeNeArXn @lynne oh like Ball jars?

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      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

        @HeNeArXn @lynne oh like Ball jars?

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        @whitequark @lynne seems more resins and such, branching out from the chemistry they had developed for food science. This company: https://www.ajinomoto.com

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        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

          thanks to AI demand, Lattice cannot make enough FPGAs to fulfill orders on iCE40's (and probably ECP5's) with less than a year of lead time. this is likely to cause supply chain issues for Glasgow revD

          • https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/ai-chip-boom-sparks-bt-substrate-materials-shortage-tsmcs-huge-demand-causes-supply-disruptions-for-nand-flash-controllers-ssds
          • https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20250527PD236.html

          words cannot describe my contempt for this shit, and my disdain for anyone still pushing it

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          @whitequark there we go with FPGA shortage again for more absurd reasons this time...
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          • ariac@donotsta.reA ariac@donotsta.re
            @whitequark there we go with FPGA shortage again for more absurd reasons this time...
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            @ariac i wonder if TQFPs are still being packaged

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            • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

              @ariac i wonder if TQFPs are still being packaged

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              @whitequark and i wonder if the price of used wire bonders already got higher.

              i've been coincidentally asked about it today
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              • henearxn@chaos.socialH henearxn@chaos.social

                @whitequark @lynne seems more resins and such, branching out from the chemistry they had developed for food science. This company: https://www.ajinomoto.com

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                @HeNeArXn @whitequark the global hardware industry is reliant on the company that makes MSG; the global software industry is reliant on furries. there's a connection here

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                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                  thanks to AI demand, Lattice cannot make enough FPGAs to fulfill orders on iCE40's (and probably ECP5's) with less than a year of lead time. this is likely to cause supply chain issues for Glasgow revD

                  • https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/ai-chip-boom-sparks-bt-substrate-materials-shortage-tsmcs-huge-demand-causes-supply-disruptions-for-nand-flash-controllers-ssds
                  • https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20250527PD236.html

                  words cannot describe my contempt for this shit, and my disdain for anyone still pushing it

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                  @whitequark is the part available in WLCSP? Even if it means a more expensive PCB for early units, a polyimide RDL should not be affected by a BT shortage

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                  • azonenberg@ioc.exchangeA azonenberg@ioc.exchange

                    @whitequark is the part available in WLCSP? Even if it means a more expensive PCB for early units, a polyimide RDL should not be affected by a BT shortage

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                    @whitequark (also the consequences of a BT shortage are going to be immense it's gonna hit LGA modules, BGAs, SiPs...)

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                    • azonenberg@ioc.exchangeA azonenberg@ioc.exchange

                      @whitequark (also the consequences of a BT shortage are going to be immense it's gonna hit LGA modules, BGAs, SiPs...)

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                      @azonenberg @whitequark Did someone say BT shortage?

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                      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                        thanks to AI demand, Lattice cannot make enough FPGAs to fulfill orders on iCE40's (and probably ECP5's) with less than a year of lead time. this is likely to cause supply chain issues for Glasgow revD

                        • https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/ai-chip-boom-sparks-bt-substrate-materials-shortage-tsmcs-huge-demand-causes-supply-disruptions-for-nand-flash-controllers-ssds
                        • https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20250527PD236.html

                        words cannot describe my contempt for this shit, and my disdain for anyone still pushing it

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                        @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                        in theory it would be possible to just glue a die to the PCB and bond it out during assembly, in practice this would be prohibitively expensive as far as I know
                        Considering that most calculators have chips packaged this way, I assume it's because of the setup costs, not the per-unit costs, right?

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                        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                          thanks to AI demand, Lattice cannot make enough FPGAs to fulfill orders on iCE40's (and probably ECP5's) with less than a year of lead time. this is likely to cause supply chain issues for Glasgow revD

                          • https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/ai-chip-boom-sparks-bt-substrate-materials-shortage-tsmcs-huge-demand-causes-supply-disruptions-for-nand-flash-controllers-ssds
                          • https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20250527PD236.html

                          words cannot describe my contempt for this shit, and my disdain for anyone still pushing it

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                          @whitequark Check out the newer Lattice Nexus parts - 9k to 100k logic cells. In stock at Mouser.

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