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  3. I’ve been seeing this commentary about how permanent daylight saving time is bad, and it’s entirely new to me; otherwise I’d only ever heard about how switching the clocks twice a year caused more traffic accidents in the following days.

I’ve been seeing this commentary about how permanent daylight saving time is bad, and it’s entirely new to me; otherwise I’d only ever heard about how switching the clocks twice a year caused more traffic accidents in the following days.

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  • giflian@techhub.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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    I’ve been seeing this commentary about how permanent daylight saving time is bad, and it’s entirely new to me; otherwise I’d only ever heard about how switching the clocks twice a year caused more traffic accidents in the following days.

    I guess the argument here is that permanent standard time is better. The BC change was announced so quickly, I don’t know why they went with DST.

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      I’ve been seeing this commentary about how permanent daylight saving time is bad, and it’s entirely new to me; otherwise I’d only ever heard about how switching the clocks twice a year caused more traffic accidents in the following days.

      I guess the argument here is that permanent standard time is better. The BC change was announced so quickly, I don’t know why they went with DST.

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      The adoption of permanent DST in B.C. raises significant concerns about social jetlag and long-term health impacts, especially for young people.

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      @giflian It's a trade off between getting noon accurate and getting extra daylight in the winter.

      Permanent standard time has a more accurate noon, which there's some evidence is better for natural sleep.

      But also this is Canada, so we can't really afford to give up an hour of extra daylight in the winter.

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        @giflian It's a trade off between getting noon accurate and getting extra daylight in the winter.

        Permanent standard time has a more accurate noon, which there's some evidence is better for natural sleep.

        But also this is Canada, so we can't really afford to give up an hour of extra daylight in the winter.

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        @steven won't anyone think of all the sun dials we'll need to re-number?

        I guess BC will see what happens in the ensuing years.

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          I’ve been seeing this commentary about how permanent daylight saving time is bad, and it’s entirely new to me; otherwise I’d only ever heard about how switching the clocks twice a year caused more traffic accidents in the following days.

          I guess the argument here is that permanent standard time is better. The BC change was announced so quickly, I don’t know why they went with DST.

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          The adoption of permanent DST in B.C. raises significant concerns about social jetlag and long-term health impacts, especially for young people.

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          @giflian I was a little surprised there wasn't a longer warning... A lot of software needs adjustment for sure.

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            I’ve been seeing this commentary about how permanent daylight saving time is bad, and it’s entirely new to me; otherwise I’d only ever heard about how switching the clocks twice a year caused more traffic accidents in the following days.

            I guess the argument here is that permanent standard time is better. The BC change was announced so quickly, I don’t know why they went with DST.

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            B.C.’s switch to permanent DST adds to the ‘perfect storm’ for poorer adolescent sleep and mental health

            The adoption of permanent DST in B.C. raises significant concerns about social jetlag and long-term health impacts, especially for young people.

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            @giflian I’m of the “I don’t care, just stop moving time all over the place” philosophy.

            The thing that makes me question this argument that “you’re doing it wrong,” is what would these Sam people say about the health benefit of moving house west to BC from Alberta versus the opposite direction? Would we hear the same argument, or not?

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              @giflian I was a little surprised there wasn't a longer warning... A lot of software needs adjustment for sure.

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              @marco well, in this case there's no change to how things are done until November, and we sprung forward last weekend as per usual.

              I think the idea had been that BC was waiting for WA/OR/CA to change first, and then just went and did it themselves. Maybe the permanent DST had already been agreed to.5

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                @steven won't anyone think of all the sun dials we'll need to re-number?

                I guess BC will see what happens in the ensuing years.

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                @giflian Basically there's a medical disadvantage to teenagers waking up before dawn more often.

                But I don't think the people who are really worried about that really considered the other side, which is the consequences of teenagers needing to spend effectively 100% of sunlight hours in school.

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                  I’ve been seeing this commentary about how permanent daylight saving time is bad, and it’s entirely new to me; otherwise I’d only ever heard about how switching the clocks twice a year caused more traffic accidents in the following days.

                  I guess the argument here is that permanent standard time is better. The BC change was announced so quickly, I don’t know why they went with DST.

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                  B.C.’s switch to permanent DST adds to the ‘perfect storm’ for poorer adolescent sleep and mental health

                  The adoption of permanent DST in B.C. raises significant concerns about social jetlag and long-term health impacts, especially for young people.

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                  @giflian #Ontario is also on board with a move to permanent Daylight Savings Time, but only after Quebec and New York State do the same.
                  There is some symmetry to standard time as the sun is at its apex about noon (not exactly except in the middle of the 15-degree time zone, adjusted for political boundaries of course). However, people like those long daylight evenings so most seem to prefer DST year round. Alternatively, we could shift our workday to 8-to-4 instead of 9-to-5 I suppose.
                  https://www.worldtimeserver.com/news/bill-to-make-dst-permanent-in-ontario-passes-third-reading/

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