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@blogdiva if you think about it, it’s the last semi-mainstream app/platform not owned by a broligarch (who control Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, Threads, X, TikTok US and Substack)
@_elena what’s his name from Twitter still has a majority ownership though, right? he always wanted BS to be a vector for cryptocurrency.
i think hiding Bain’s investment has more to do with Bain’s history of investment parasitism. Bain doesn’t invest to grow businesses. Bain invests to cannibalize and grow themselves.
i can see a situation in which Bain demanded complete access to user data and Bluesky having to create a secret API for Bain.
in other words, took a year to backdoor Bluesky
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@_elena what’s his name from Twitter still has a majority ownership though, right? he always wanted BS to be a vector for cryptocurrency.
i think hiding Bain’s investment has more to do with Bain’s history of investment parasitism. Bain doesn’t invest to grow businesses. Bain invests to cannibalize and grow themselves.
i can see a situation in which Bain demanded complete access to user data and Bluesky having to create a secret API for Bain.
in other words, took a year to backdoor Bluesky
@blogdiva "took a year to backdoor Bluesky" sent shivers down my spine. Ouf. Can I say it wouldn't surprise me?
BTW a lot of European politicians and institutions are more active on Bluesky than the Fediverse... connect the dots
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116260876501374382
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been pondering this Bluesky mess, and i think i found a reason for why Bluesky executives didn't want people to find out they took 100 million from Bain Capital:
❝ "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and o͟t͟h͟e͟r͟ i͟n͟t͟e͟r͟a͟c͟t͟i͟o͟n͟s͟ ❞
what other interactions are there beyond posts, likes and comments?
oh, right: DIRECT MESSAGES.
so is this why they kept quiet? that the money was contingent upon them redefining public to include DMs?
@blogdiva it's not hidden, when there is no e2e encryption and relays see everything
PDS information are publicBluesky doesn't hide it (neither mastodon instance admin who can do the same)
(No need to backdoor public data)
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@_elena what’s his name from Twitter still has a majority ownership though, right? he always wanted BS to be a vector for cryptocurrency.
i think hiding Bain’s investment has more to do with Bain’s history of investment parasitism. Bain doesn’t invest to grow businesses. Bain invests to cannibalize and grow themselves.
i can see a situation in which Bain demanded complete access to user data and Bluesky having to create a secret API for Bain.
in other words, took a year to backdoor Bluesky
@blogdiva @_elena I think you mean Dorsey: According to Wikipedia "In May 2024, he announced he was no longer on the board of directors".
Unclear if still shareholder, apparently no controlling majority, if so. (edit: see below, he seems to be out)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Dorsey#Bluesky
But no material difference, I'd say.
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116260876501374382
soOoOo…
been pondering this Bluesky mess, and i think i found a reason for why Bluesky executives didn't want people to find out they took 100 million from Bain Capital:
❝ "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and o͟t͟h͟e͟r͟ i͟n͟t͟e͟r͟a͟c͟t͟i͟o͟n͟s͟ ❞
what other interactions are there beyond posts, likes and comments?
oh, right: DIRECT MESSAGES.
so is this why they kept quiet? that the money was contingent upon them redefining public to include DMs?
@blogdiva I imagine "other interactions" includes follows, subscriptions and blocks — all of which are useful data points for determining sentiment and affiliation.
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116260876501374382
soOoOo…
been pondering this Bluesky mess, and i think i found a reason for why Bluesky executives didn't want people to find out they took 100 million from Bain Capital:
❝ "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and o͟t͟h͟e͟r͟ i͟n͟t͟e͟r͟a͟c͟t͟i͟o͟n͟s͟ ❞
what other interactions are there beyond posts, likes and comments?
oh, right: DIRECT MESSAGES.
so is this why they kept quiet? that the money was contingent upon them redefining public to include DMs?
@blogdiva exactly why self hosting is the best step out of this new age internet mess. Moving from one shitty platform to another platform that isn't shitty yet is just waiting for the same process again.
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116260876501374382
soOoOo…
been pondering this Bluesky mess, and i think i found a reason for why Bluesky executives didn't want people to find out they took 100 million from Bain Capital:
❝ "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and o͟t͟h͟e͟r͟ i͟n͟t͟e͟r͟a͟c͟t͟i͟o͟n͟s͟ ❞
what other interactions are there beyond posts, likes and comments?
oh, right: DIRECT MESSAGES.
so is this why they kept quiet? that the money was contingent upon them redefining public to include DMs?
@blogdiva Follows, blocks, reposts, user / moderation lists, starter packs, etc. DMs aren't and won't be public, obviously, so the "20 billion public records" doesn't include DMs. Although yes, in the current version they are accessible to Bluesky PBC since they're not encrypted.
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@blogdiva @_elena I think you mean Dorsey: According to Wikipedia "In May 2024, he announced he was no longer on the board of directors".
Unclear if still shareholder, apparently no controlling majority, if so. (edit: see below, he seems to be out)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Dorsey#Bluesky
But no material difference, I'd say.
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@blogdiva Follows, blocks, reposts, user / moderation lists, starter packs, etc. DMs aren't and won't be public, obviously, so the "20 billion public records" doesn't include DMs. Although yes, in the current version they are accessible to Bluesky PBC since they're not encrypted.
@blogdiva They've been pretty open about the fact that they can access the DMs and so you shouldn't use them for anything very sensitive, they said "if you want private DMs, then just use the DMs here to exchange contacts on Signal and do the conversation on Signal"
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116260876501374382
soOoOo…
been pondering this Bluesky mess, and i think i found a reason for why Bluesky executives didn't want people to find out they took 100 million from Bain Capital:
❝ "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and o͟t͟h͟e͟r͟ i͟n͟t͟e͟r͟a͟c͟t͟i͟o͟n͟s͟ ❞
what other interactions are there beyond posts, likes and comments?
oh, right: DIRECT MESSAGES.
so is this why they kept quiet? that the money was contingent upon them redefining public to include DMs?
@blogdiva @nazokiyoubinbou Not to say you're wrong, but other interactions that are not DMs include boost, bookmark, share, and translate.
So it's not like this implicitly means DMs are included, as it would if DMs were the only other type of interaction
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@blogdiva @nazokiyoubinbou Not to say you're wrong, but other interactions that are not DMs include boost, bookmark, share, and translate.
So it's not like this implicitly means DMs are included, as it would if DMs were the only other type of interaction
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@nazokiyoubinbou @blogdiva ah right I forgot those are public on bsky. Dunno about the others I listed being public either, except boost for sure
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116260876501374382
soOoOo…
been pondering this Bluesky mess, and i think i found a reason for why Bluesky executives didn't want people to find out they took 100 million from Bain Capital:
❝ "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and o͟t͟h͟e͟r͟ i͟n͟t͟e͟r͟a͟c͟t͟i͟o͟n͟s͟ ❞
what other interactions are there beyond posts, likes and comments?
oh, right: DIRECT MESSAGES.
so is this why they kept quiet? that the money was contingent upon them redefining public to include DMs?
@blogdiva bluesky has BEEN shady, I got off it a long time ago
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116260876501374382
soOoOo…
been pondering this Bluesky mess, and i think i found a reason for why Bluesky executives didn't want people to find out they took 100 million from Bain Capital:
❝ "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and o͟t͟h͟e͟r͟ i͟n͟t͟e͟r͟a͟c͟t͟i͟o͟n͟s͟ ❞
what other interactions are there beyond posts, likes and comments?
oh, right: DIRECT MESSAGES.
so is this why they kept quiet? that the money was contingent upon them redefining public to include DMs?
@blogdiva DMs on Bluesky are not encrypted and, in fairness, they didn't pretend that it is secure and private at the get go.
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116260876501374382
soOoOo…
been pondering this Bluesky mess, and i think i found a reason for why Bluesky executives didn't want people to find out they took 100 million from Bain Capital:
❝ "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and o͟t͟h͟e͟r͟ i͟n͟t͟e͟r͟a͟c͟t͟i͟o͟n͟s͟ ❞
what other interactions are there beyond posts, likes and comments?
oh, right: DIRECT MESSAGES.
so is this why they kept quiet? that the money was contingent upon them redefining public to include DMs?
@blogdiva And the worst part is that they verified ICE's account. That's as low as they can sink.
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@blogdiva DMs on Bluesky are not encrypted and, in fairness, they didn't pretend that it is secure and private at the get go.
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116260876501374382
soOoOo…
been pondering this Bluesky mess, and i think i found a reason for why Bluesky executives didn't want people to find out they took 100 million from Bain Capital:
❝ "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and o͟t͟h͟e͟r͟ i͟n͟t͟e͟r͟a͟c͟t͟i͟o͟n͟s͟ ❞
what other interactions are there beyond posts, likes and comments?
oh, right: DIRECT MESSAGES.
so is this why they kept quiet? that the money was contingent upon them redefining public to include DMs?
@blogdiva I closed my Blue Sky account about a year ago. Not happy about the direction it was heading. The Fediverse is my haap place!
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