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  • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

    RE: https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116260876501374382

    soOoOo…

    been pondering this Bluesky mess, and i think i found a reason for why Bluesky executives didn't want people to find out they took 100 million from Bain Capital:

    ❝ "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and o͟t͟h͟e͟r͟ i͟n͟t͟e͟r͟a͟c͟t͟i͟o͟n͟s͟ ❞

    what other interactions are there beyond posts, likes and comments?

    oh, right: DIRECT MESSAGES.

    so is this why they kept quiet? that the money was contingent upon them redefining public to include DMs?

    cairobraga@gts.cairobraga.comC This user is from outside of this forum
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    @blogdiva OOP

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    • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

      RE: https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116260876501374382

      soOoOo…

      been pondering this Bluesky mess, and i think i found a reason for why Bluesky executives didn't want people to find out they took 100 million from Bain Capital:

      ❝ "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and o͟t͟h͟e͟r͟ i͟n͟t͟e͟r͟a͟c͟t͟i͟o͟n͟s͟ ❞

      what other interactions are there beyond posts, likes and comments?

      oh, right: DIRECT MESSAGES.

      so is this why they kept quiet? that the money was contingent upon them redefining public to include DMs?

      _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote last edited by
      #3

      @blogdiva 🎯🎯🎯 and blocks, which are public information.

      You can infer so much about someone from the accounts they are blocking. And guess who the most blocked accounts are? No need to guess actually, it’s all out in the open on clearsky.app

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        @blogdiva 🎯🎯🎯 and blocks, which are public information.

        You can infer so much about someone from the accounts they are blocking. And guess who the most blocked accounts are? No need to guess actually, it’s all out in the open on clearsky.app

        blogdiva@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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        #4

        @_elena jfc that didn't even occur to me. so everything, from who you decide to unfollow, mute, block, to DMs; even your searches. and then there’s fingerprinting all devices where you install their app.

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        • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

          RE: https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116260876501374382

          soOoOo…

          been pondering this Bluesky mess, and i think i found a reason for why Bluesky executives didn't want people to find out they took 100 million from Bain Capital:

          ❝ "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and o͟t͟h͟e͟r͟ i͟n͟t͟e͟r͟a͟c͟t͟i͟o͟n͟s͟ ❞

          what other interactions are there beyond posts, likes and comments?

          oh, right: DIRECT MESSAGES.

          so is this why they kept quiet? that the money was contingent upon them redefining public to include DMs?

          cawguy@mstdn.caC This user is from outside of this forum
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          @blogdiva Headline?: Mitt has paws on Bluesky

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          • cawguy@mstdn.caC cawguy@mstdn.ca

            @blogdiva Headline?: Mitt has paws on Bluesky

            revndm@queer.coolR This user is from outside of this forum
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            #6

            @CAWguy @blogdiva ugh

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            • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

              @_elena jfc that didn't even occur to me. so everything, from who you decide to unfollow, mute, block, to DMs; even your searches. and then there’s fingerprinting all devices where you install their app.

              _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote last edited by
              #7

              @blogdiva if you think about it, it’s the last semi-mainstream app/platform not owned by a broligarch (who control Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, Threads, X, TikTok US and Substack)

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                @blogdiva if you think about it, it’s the last semi-mainstream app/platform not owned by a broligarch (who control Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, Threads, X, TikTok US and Substack)

                blogdiva@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                #8

                @_elena what’s his name from Twitter still has a majority ownership though, right? he always wanted BS to be a vector for cryptocurrency.

                i think hiding Bain’s investment has more to do with Bain’s history of investment parasitism. Bain doesn’t invest to grow businesses. Bain invests to cannibalize and grow themselves.

                i can see a situation in which Bain demanded complete access to user data and Bluesky having to create a secret API for Bain.

                in other words, took a year to backdoor Bluesky

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                • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                  @_elena what’s his name from Twitter still has a majority ownership though, right? he always wanted BS to be a vector for cryptocurrency.

                  i think hiding Bain’s investment has more to do with Bain’s history of investment parasitism. Bain doesn’t invest to grow businesses. Bain invests to cannibalize and grow themselves.

                  i can see a situation in which Bain demanded complete access to user data and Bluesky having to create a secret API for Bain.

                  in other words, took a year to backdoor Bluesky

                  _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #9

                  @blogdiva "took a year to backdoor Bluesky" sent shivers down my spine. Ouf. Can I say it wouldn't surprise me?

                  BTW a lot of European politicians and institutions are more active on Bluesky than the Fediverse... connect the dots

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                  • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                    RE: https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116260876501374382

                    soOoOo…

                    been pondering this Bluesky mess, and i think i found a reason for why Bluesky executives didn't want people to find out they took 100 million from Bain Capital:

                    ❝ "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and o͟t͟h͟e͟r͟ i͟n͟t͟e͟r͟a͟c͟t͟i͟o͟n͟s͟ ❞

                    what other interactions are there beyond posts, likes and comments?

                    oh, right: DIRECT MESSAGES.

                    so is this why they kept quiet? that the money was contingent upon them redefining public to include DMs?

                    K This user is from outside of this forum
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                    kazord@mamot.fr
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                    #10

                    @blogdiva it's not hidden, when there is no e2e encryption and relays see everything
                    PDS information are public

                    Bluesky doesn't hide it (neither mastodon instance admin who can do the same)

                    (No need to backdoor public data)

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                    • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                      @_elena what’s his name from Twitter still has a majority ownership though, right? he always wanted BS to be a vector for cryptocurrency.

                      i think hiding Bain’s investment has more to do with Bain’s history of investment parasitism. Bain doesn’t invest to grow businesses. Bain invests to cannibalize and grow themselves.

                      i can see a situation in which Bain demanded complete access to user data and Bluesky having to create a secret API for Bain.

                      in other words, took a year to backdoor Bluesky

                      jandi@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #11

                      @blogdiva @_elena I think you mean Dorsey: According to Wikipedia "In May 2024, he announced he was no longer on the board of directors".

                      Unclear if still shareholder, apparently no controlling majority, if so. (edit: see below, he seems to be out)

                      Link Preview Image
                      Jack Dorsey - Wikipedia

                      favicon

                      (en.wikipedia.org)

                      But no material difference, I'd say.

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                      • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                        RE: https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116260876501374382

                        soOoOo…

                        been pondering this Bluesky mess, and i think i found a reason for why Bluesky executives didn't want people to find out they took 100 million from Bain Capital:

                        ❝ "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and o͟t͟h͟e͟r͟ i͟n͟t͟e͟r͟a͟c͟t͟i͟o͟n͟s͟ ❞

                        what other interactions are there beyond posts, likes and comments?

                        oh, right: DIRECT MESSAGES.

                        so is this why they kept quiet? that the money was contingent upon them redefining public to include DMs?

                        lrhodes@merveilles.townL This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #12

                        @blogdiva I imagine "other interactions" includes follows, subscriptions and blocks — all of which are useful data points for determining sentiment and affiliation.

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                        • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                          RE: https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116260876501374382

                          soOoOo…

                          been pondering this Bluesky mess, and i think i found a reason for why Bluesky executives didn't want people to find out they took 100 million from Bain Capital:

                          ❝ "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and o͟t͟h͟e͟r͟ i͟n͟t͟e͟r͟a͟c͟t͟i͟o͟n͟s͟ ❞

                          what other interactions are there beyond posts, likes and comments?

                          oh, right: DIRECT MESSAGES.

                          so is this why they kept quiet? that the money was contingent upon them redefining public to include DMs?

                          megalodonnelly@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #13

                          @blogdiva exactly why self hosting is the best step out of this new age internet mess. Moving from one shitty platform to another platform that isn't shitty yet is just waiting for the same process again.

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                          • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                            RE: https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116260876501374382

                            soOoOo…

                            been pondering this Bluesky mess, and i think i found a reason for why Bluesky executives didn't want people to find out they took 100 million from Bain Capital:

                            ❝ "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and o͟t͟h͟e͟r͟ i͟n͟t͟e͟r͟a͟c͟t͟i͟o͟n͟s͟ ❞

                            what other interactions are there beyond posts, likes and comments?

                            oh, right: DIRECT MESSAGES.

                            so is this why they kept quiet? that the money was contingent upon them redefining public to include DMs?

                            mackuba@martianbase.netM This user is from outside of this forum
                            mackuba@martianbase.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #14

                            @blogdiva Follows, blocks, reposts, user / moderation lists, starter packs, etc. DMs aren't and won't be public, obviously, so the "20 billion public records" doesn't include DMs. Although yes, in the current version they are accessible to Bluesky PBC since they're not encrypted.

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                            • jandi@mastodon.socialJ jandi@mastodon.social

                              @blogdiva @_elena I think you mean Dorsey: According to Wikipedia "In May 2024, he announced he was no longer on the board of directors".

                              Unclear if still shareholder, apparently no controlling majority, if so. (edit: see below, he seems to be out)

                              Link Preview Image
                              Jack Dorsey - Wikipedia

                              favicon

                              (en.wikipedia.org)

                              But no material difference, I'd say.

                              mackuba@martianbase.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #15

                              @jandi @blogdiva They said before Dorsey owns no shares at all.

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                              • mackuba@martianbase.netM mackuba@martianbase.net

                                @jandi @blogdiva They said before Dorsey owns no shares at all.

                                jandi@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @mackuba @blogdiva thank you

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                                • mackuba@martianbase.netM mackuba@martianbase.net

                                  @blogdiva Follows, blocks, reposts, user / moderation lists, starter packs, etc. DMs aren't and won't be public, obviously, so the "20 billion public records" doesn't include DMs. Although yes, in the current version they are accessible to Bluesky PBC since they're not encrypted.

                                  mackuba@martianbase.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #17

                                  @blogdiva They've been pretty open about the fact that they can access the DMs and so you shouldn't use them for anything very sensitive, they said "if you want private DMs, then just use the DMs here to exchange contacts on Signal and do the conversation on Signal"

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                                  • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                                    RE: https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116260876501374382

                                    soOoOo…

                                    been pondering this Bluesky mess, and i think i found a reason for why Bluesky executives didn't want people to find out they took 100 million from Bain Capital:

                                    ❝ "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and o͟t͟h͟e͟r͟ i͟n͟t͟e͟r͟a͟c͟t͟i͟o͟n͟s͟ ❞

                                    what other interactions are there beyond posts, likes and comments?

                                    oh, right: DIRECT MESSAGES.

                                    so is this why they kept quiet? that the money was contingent upon them redefining public to include DMs?

                                    neatchee@urusai.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #18

                                    @blogdiva @nazokiyoubinbou Not to say you're wrong, but other interactions that are not DMs include boost, bookmark, share, and translate.

                                    So it's not like this implicitly means DMs are included, as it would if DMs were the only other type of interaction

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                                    • neatchee@urusai.socialN neatchee@urusai.social

                                      @blogdiva @nazokiyoubinbou Not to say you're wrong, but other interactions that are not DMs include boost, bookmark, share, and translate.

                                      So it's not like this implicitly means DMs are included, as it would if DMs were the only other type of interaction

                                      nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #19

                                      @neatchee @blogdiva And apparently blocks.

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                                      • nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social

                                        @neatchee @blogdiva And apparently blocks.

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                                        @nazokiyoubinbou @blogdiva ah right I forgot those are public on bsky. Dunno about the others I listed being public either, except boost for sure

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                                        • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                                          RE: https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116260876501374382

                                          soOoOo…

                                          been pondering this Bluesky mess, and i think i found a reason for why Bluesky executives didn't want people to find out they took 100 million from Bain Capital:

                                          ❝ "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and o͟t͟h͟e͟r͟ i͟n͟t͟e͟r͟a͟c͟t͟i͟o͟n͟s͟ ❞

                                          what other interactions are there beyond posts, likes and comments?

                                          oh, right: DIRECT MESSAGES.

                                          so is this why they kept quiet? that the money was contingent upon them redefining public to include DMs?

                                          dielectric_boogaloo@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #21

                                          @blogdiva bluesky has BEEN shady, I got off it a long time ago

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