In the 1960s, the B-52 bomber could navigate by the stars.
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@kenshirriff .. so about 11 km at 34 degrees north.
I guess with a 10 megaton bomb, it's good enough. If Dr Strangelove is anything to go by, the final bombing run used radar
I doubted that 10 megaton yield, but indeed, the B-53 had a 9 megaton yield.
It replaced the B-41, a 25 megaton yield device.
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@dnaunton The SR-71 used a different system, the NAS-14V2 astroinertial navigation system. Nortronics built the SR-71 system and Kollsman built the B-52 system. The B-52 system is said to have also been used in the Hound Dog cruise missile. A very detailed document on the SR-71 star tracker is here: https://audiopub.co.kr/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/NAS-14V2-ANS-System.pdf
@kenshirriff @dnaunton this is fascinating. I also congratulate you on one of the clearest summaries of celestial navigation I have read.
Ages ago I read Francis Chichester’s account of his solo float plane flight from New Zealand to Australia in the 1930s, when he pioneered aerial celestial nav. He went into some detail and was undoubtably a kind of genius, but completely incomprehensible! The man was not a writer. Or much of a mechanic… and that almost killed him.
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In the 1960s, the B-52 bomber could navigate by the stars. Celestial navigation requires spherical trigonometry, so an analog Angle Computer solved these equations electromechanically. Let's look inside...
@kenshirriff I was wondering if satellite constellations fucks this up? I think these are still in use and given a dooms day scenario, it's likely anti-SAT weapons will be used and GPS may be jammed or useless.
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In the 1960s, the B-52 bomber could navigate by the stars. Celestial navigation requires spherical trigonometry, so an analog Angle Computer solved these equations electromechanically. Let's look inside...
@kenshirriff i read this as Apple Computer somehow
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In the 1960s, the B-52 bomber could navigate by the stars. Celestial navigation requires spherical trigonometry, so an analog Angle Computer solved these equations electromechanically. Let's look inside...
@kenshirriff That's quite a piece of mechanical engineering. Aircraft machinery is wildly complicated.
The B-58 Hustler had the first digital navigation computer on a plane. They came up with a clever low-resource trig function algorithm called CORDIC. This was later used in the first pocket scientific calculators.
The SR-71 system was informally called R2-D2. That document says it required an air conditioning trailer on the ground.
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@kenshirriff That's quite a piece of mechanical engineering. Aircraft machinery is wildly complicated.
The B-58 Hustler had the first digital navigation computer on a plane. They came up with a clever low-resource trig function algorithm called CORDIC. This was later used in the first pocket scientific calculators.
The SR-71 system was informally called R2-D2. That document says it required an air conditioning trailer on the ground.
@kenshirriff Another example: how did they get 400 Hz AC power from a variable RPM jet engine?
If you connect a variable displacement hydraulic pump to a hydraulic motor, you get a continuously variable drive, but an inefficient one.
So they attached that to a differential gear. At cruise the engine speed matches the required generator speed. At idle the hydraulic drive makes up the RPM. At takeoff power, the hydraulic machine runs backward to subtract RPM.
Now that is real engineering.
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In the 1960s, the B-52 bomber could navigate by the stars. Celestial navigation requires spherical trigonometry, so an analog Angle Computer solved these equations electromechanically. Let's look inside...
@kenshirriff
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@kenshirriff I was wondering if satellite constellations fucks this up? I think these are still in use and given a dooms day scenario, it's likely anti-SAT weapons will be used and GPS may be jammed or useless.
Seems unlikely that these are still in use.
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@nilz They once bombed Schaffhausen, a Swiss town by accident. @vk2bea @kenshirriff
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@nilz They once bombed Schaffhausen, a Swiss town by accident. @vk2bea @kenshirriff
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Seems unlikely that these are still in use.
@sibrosan @kenshirriff this is a very old model, but there are more recent celestial navigation systems: https://prod-edam.honeywell.com/content/dam/honeywell-edam/aero/en-us/products/navigation-and-sensors/navigation-systems/celestial-aided-navigation/documents/hon-aero-celestial-aided-navigation-brochure-1493615-n61-3148-000-000.pdf?download=false
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