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When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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  • joblakely@mastodon.socialJ joblakely@mastodon.social

    @Gustodon most of them are old and have their entire business and social group or club information on that platform. If they leave, they have to convince all their members to also leave at the same time. It’s not a moral issue it’s a logistics issue, and lack of a place or capability that will perform the same function as FB groups.

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    @JoBlakely Doing the right thing is always more difficult. That's what makes it a moral choice. I lost a lot when I gave up Facebook, as I did when I gave up everything else. But, from my point of view, it was more valuable to be ethical than profitable.

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    • gustodon@mas.toG gustodon@mas.to

      @JoBlakely Doing the right thing is always more difficult. That's what makes it a moral choice. I lost a lot when I gave up Facebook, as I did when I gave up everything else. But, from my point of view, it was more valuable to be ethical than profitable.

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      #94

      @Gustodon so did I, and I made that choice. Even so, I recognize it’s very difficult for some IRL organizations that have used FB for organizing etc. and have nothing else to go to that gives notifications etc. I wish there was more support out there for people to make that move and feel informed doing it.

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      • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

        When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms. @vicfroh https://mastodon.social/@vicfroh/116172585169719449

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        @aral

        "But you get better reach there" 🤡

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          @aral I'm actually writing a blog post arguing that public institutions should start seeing the Fediverse as the ideal publishing platform for sharing communications with their constituents.

          May I quote your post, this is super relevant?

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          @_elena
          Count me in. I work for local govt and with national govt, so very keen to promote this. Using Fediverse ad hoc for specific projects at moment
          @aral

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          • jaker@c.imJ jaker@c.im

            @_elena
            Count me in. I work for local govt and with national govt, so very keen to promote this. Using Fediverse ad hoc for specific projects at moment
            @aral

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            @jaker thank you 🙏 @aral

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            • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

              When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms. @vicfroh https://mastodon.social/@vicfroh/116172585169719449

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              @aral@mastodon.ar.al @vicfroh@mastodon.social This! And I'd add another annoying one: YouTube. It's been more than a year that I ditched YouTube, still sometimes I receive YouTube links, even from people here in Fediverse (where we got a platform called Peertube).

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              • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms. @vicfroh https://mastodon.social/@vicfroh/116172585169719449

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                @aral Wenn es sich um öffentliche Beiträge handelt, kann man sie schon sehen, mit etwas Geschick. Manchmal muss man ein Hinweisfenster schließen, welches den Beitrag verdeckt.

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                • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                  When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms. @vicfroh https://mastodon.social/@vicfroh/116172585169719449

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                  #100

                  @aral
                  Idk if this is bad or good. Hm. Good.

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                  • joblakely@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #101

                    @avradi
                    I agree. It’s a huge hurdle for many. And mastodon doesn’t offer groups. There just isn’t a similar option available.

                    Build it, they will come.

                    @Gustodon

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                      #102

                      @avradi @Gustodon I have that on my instance in the browser version.

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                      • gustodon@mas.toG This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @avradi This is why Zuckerberg is rich, because people won't make the slightest effort. As for your objections, I haven't had that experience. It was easy to start, I can follow any instance, and there are no bots, no made-up posts designed to test my reactions, and no ads. #Facebook groups has a dozen alternatives, but it might require learning something, so no one explores. You have been sold a bill of goods.

                        #Meta

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                        • krazov@mstdn.socialK krazov@mstdn.social

                          @felwert @aral On Mastodon, you can make a post "only for followers," and we're fine with it. I can imagine that a user can decide on his personal level not to share their post with the open web. That's their choice.

                          (Though, the funny part is that it's more like a flag, and respecting it depends completely on the app, so if there is more traction for Bluesky, apps going around that might start popping up. Same for blocks.)

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                          @Krazov@mstdn.social @felwert@fedihum.org @aral@mastodon.ar.al It can get a little frustrating if you follow only one person in the thread of replies. You only see one side of the conversation.
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                          • joblakely@mastodon.socialJ joblakely@mastodon.social

                            @avradi @Gustodon I have that on my instance in the browser version.

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                            #105

                            @JoBlakely @avradi @Gustodon This feature is indeed server-based. Admins can enable it if they want to. This is why choosing server is important as they all has own features and stuff.

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                            • nowster@fedi.nowster.me.ukN nowster@fedi.nowster.me.uk
                              @Krazov@mstdn.social @felwert@fedihum.org @aral@mastodon.ar.al It can get a little frustrating if you follow only one person in the thread of replies. You only see one side of the conversation.
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                              @nowster @felwert @aral Alas, that's unavoidable. And Fedi is sometimes worse; if you happen to be on an instance defederated from some of the discussants, you have those empty spots. What Twitter got nice at some point, was showing placeholders for messages that you cannot see, either due to being blocked, blocking, muting, the message being behind the lock, or simply deleted. At least there was a visual cue.

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