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@hyperreal @lea @marialeal @woe2you they've literally been openly praising fascists, can't get any clearer than that
@asm @lea @marialeal @woe2you Do you have a link to where they do this? You can get clearer, if you show me the evidence.
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@asm @lea @marialeal @woe2you Do you have a link to where they do this? You can get clearer, if you show me the evidence.
@hyperreal @lea @marialeal @woe2you since it's originally a Twitter post, here:
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@SharpCheddarGoblin @asm @lea @woe2you @marialeal I mean, I think I'm pretty aware of what's going on in privacy topics, but I haven't heard of Proton AG openly praising fascists. If you can show me where, I'd have no argument then.
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@makesubarugayagain @marialeal that's not Matt Damon...
@elexia @makesubarugayagain @marialeal ben affleck maybe ?
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@elexia @makesubarugayagain @marialeal ben affleck maybe ?
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@makesubarugayagain @marialeal that's not Matt Damon...
@elexia @marialeal sorry ben affleck, the last movie i saw in theaters was sorry to bother you.
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@marialeal This would be popcorn-worthy if firefox was a serious web browser.
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@asm @lea @marialeal The Chromium monopoly is easily as big a problem as forcing AI into everything.
@woe2you Blame mozilla. They're the ones refusing to build the only remaining competitor into an actual competitor.
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@lea @marialeal @asm vivaldi is especially bad because they brand themselves like an open source, privacy focused option, and then deliver nothing but a ui reskin and a disappointing builtin feed reader / mail client
@hearts @lea @asm @marialeal don't forget the bloat. Dear lord, *the bloat*.
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@ariarhythmic @lea @marialeal Firefox gets an okay cause you can make it good with a bunch of config tweaks. LibreWolf gets a good cause it does 90% of those config tweaks and more for you
@asm no amount of configuration is going to fix missing and/or broken engine features
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@hyperreal @lea @marialeal @woe2you since it's originally a Twitter post, here:
xcancel.com/andyyen/status/1864436449942110660@asm @lea @marialeal @woe2you I can't argue with that, and I was already aware of that Twitter post, but you made it sound like it was a general pattern of behavior among Proton employees. I don't know what else Andy Yen has posted in praise of fascists, but I don't think it's fair to act like he's tantamount to the likes of DHH.
But, I accept your original point. Fair enough.
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(Happening rn on Threads)@marialeal "We didn't steal it! We asked the magical plagiarism machine and that's what it came up with!"
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@elexia @marialeal sorry ben affleck, the last movie i saw in theaters was sorry to bother you.
@makesubarugayagain @elexia @marialeal caption with Damon was more fitting with the OP and thread...
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@hyperreal@tilde.zone @marialeal@social.vivaldi.net @asm@is.beeping.pet @woe2you@beige.party
They've also built ProtonVPN into the browser and users can use the free tier without a ProtonVPN account
i don't think cooperating with fascists is a selling point but you do you
@lea @marialeal @hyperreal @asm @woe2you Proton is NOT a fascist company. The tweet in question was written by the CEO, and it was about Gail Slater. She is focused on antitrust, which is unrelated to fascism, it's a good thing. The CEO never praised Trump's politic in general. There is an absolute lack of nuance.
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@lea @marialeal @hyperreal @asm @woe2you Proton is NOT a fascist company. The tweet in question was written by the CEO, and it was about Gail Slater. She is focused on antitrust, which is unrelated to fascism, it's a good thing. The CEO never praised Trump's politic in general. There is an absolute lack of nuance.
@BafS It can be argued that, as Slater is a Trump-appointed advisor, and affiliated with the Republican party and Fox Corporation, that she has effectively cooperated with fascists. Her track record on anti-trust speaks for itself. I don't know the extent to which she has influenced the Trump admin for the greater good or if she was just another lackey. Apparently she resigned from her position recently.
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(Happening rn on Threads)All they had to do to show good faith was switch this to off by default, like their community asked times and times again...
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Chromium isn't a monopoly. Firefox and other browsers exist. Chromium does have the majority market share, tho, and I agree this is on par with the forcing AI into everything problem.
IMO Vivaldi gets points for avoiding AI. Only 5% of the code base is proprietary and it's only the UI. 90% is open source Chromium base. Vivaldi is privacy-friendly to the extent that they don't use and sell your data for profit. They've also built ProtonVPN into the browser and users can use the free tier without a ProtonVPN account. I think Firefox is inherently more privacy-friendly because it's not Chromium-based, and has the container tabs feature which Chromium-based browsers sorely lack.
Zen, LibreWolf, and Waterfox are better Firefox skins if you want no-AI and more privacy-by-default settings, but they don't have mobile apps.
@hyperreal @asm @lea @marialeal It's as close to a monopoly as makes no difference. Firefox is a rounding error these days, even Edge has more users. The only thing in the market share stats that's hiding the true extent of the Chromium problem is Safari, which is a different problem all of its own.
Yes, Chromium is de jure open source but it's de facto a Google product, and that's a threat to the open web. They contribute the lion's share of dev time and funding and they dictate the direction of the project. Take the Manifest spec for example: the changes from v2 to v3 were specifically to neuter ad blockers. Effective ad blocking is a threat to Google's bottom line, so Google said frog and Chromium hopped, and all Chromium-based browsers are now more privacy hostile by design.
Firefox's soft forks are vulnerable to every piece of dipshittery that comes out of Mozilla. They have to spend time and resources unfucking things that Mozilla have fucked. Speaking of Mozilla, they also get a huge chunk of funding from Google, because that enables Google to point at them and say "look, Firefox is still around, we're not a monopoly".
The browser landscape is utterly fucked.
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@roy_calum Andy Yen has nothing to do with the Swiss state. I don't really know if what you're saying is true, but you could also say the same about U.S. and some Europeans companies. You can't tell me you don't use services from any of those. Seriously get a fucking grip.
