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  3. Curious find of the day: the AI community on X has seemingly re-discovered the World Wide Web, in that it now favours HTML over Markdown for “agents to communicate with us”: https://x

Curious find of the day: the AI community on X has seemingly re-discovered the World Wide Web, in that it now favours HTML over Markdown for “agents to communicate with us”: https://x

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  • misty@digipres.clubM misty@digipres.club

    @ricmac Unfortunately they haven’t yet discovered the concept of a “blog” where you can store posts without paying x dot com $40 a month

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    @misty @ricmac
    How many tokens does it cost to generate this thing called "blog" from a post on X?

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    • ricmac@mastodon.socialR ricmac@mastodon.social

      Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

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      @ricmac @bkastl They came full circle.

      Also, they were meant, when Gordon Ramsy performed the idiot sandwich.

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      • ricmac@mastodon.socialR ricmac@mastodon.social

        Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

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        @ricmac What is a 12116 token HTML article? Haha, I'm so out of the loop on this topic, and it makes so little sense to me 😄

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        • bms48@mastodon.socialB bms48@mastodon.social

          @ricmac @fionasboots This is the same bollock (as we say in Scotland, quaintly) all over again. The so-called "grep tax" and the cardinality of code residing within individual files contributing to filling the LLM's context window. It contributes towards "babysitting needed to get token-based generator to work" vs actual productivity. But hey! Time to make agentic automation scalable! /s

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          @bms48

          @ricmac I don't think grep deserves to have some perverse AI failure named after it! That aside, having found out what that term means, it just lends more credibility to the idea that humans and real intelligence are just better at this. LLMs are just for corporations to make money without producing any of their own value.

          If you need an actual answer, as the person who wrote the code the LLM was trained on. Don't burn through tokens (in a way that isn't transparent) to come up with slop.

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          • ricmac@mastodon.socialR ricmac@mastodon.social

            Unfortunately, I think the next step might be: “What if we created a virtual DOM…”

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            @ricmac STOP GIVING THEM IDEAS (for free)

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              @john.kreitlow.rocks "whoa, dude... wouldn't it, like, be strange if this was also more efficient in every other way? We couldn't be that lucky, tho. But what if..."

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              • ricmac@mastodon.socialR ricmac@mastodon.social

                Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

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                #27

                @ricmac @cassidy this week i literally found a website that had a full blown photo gallery entirely as base64 encoded images. the entire website was a single html many megabytes in size.

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                  #28

                  @fionasboots @glitzersachen @ricmac “from the best programmers in the world” if only. What do one get when training the stuff on stack overflow and mediocre enterprise rest applications? 🤣

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                  • ricmac@mastodon.socialR ricmac@mastodon.social

                    Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

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                    #29

                    @ricmac But it seems he learned something Form the AI...

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                    • ricmac@mastodon.socialR ricmac@mastodon.social

                      Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

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                      @ricmac we gotta laugh at AI-bros today because perhaps tomorrow they will be gone just like NFT

                      we can't postpone our laughter and ridicule

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                      • mikalai@privacysafe.socialM mikalai@privacysafe.social

                        @pikesley @ricmac
                        reinventing the wheel .... after firing bunch of carriage keepers.

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                        @mikalai @pikesley @ricmac this is so funny

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                        • G glitzersachen@hachyderm.io

                          @ricmac

                          Wow. It's such a sh*t show.

                          "AI" (LLM style) is really a gathering point for the clueless, who then make important self-aggrandizing noise.

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                          @glitzersachen @ricmac it's a promise "something for nothing" and the inept are allured by it

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                          • rotnroll666@mastodon.socialR rotnroll666@mastodon.social

                            @fionasboots @glitzersachen @ricmac “from the best programmers in the world” if only. What do one get when training the stuff on stack overflow and mediocre enterprise rest applications? 🤣

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                            @rotnroll666

                            @glitzersachen @ricmac fair point 😂

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                            • ricmac@mastodon.socialR ricmac@mastodon.social

                              Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

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                              @ricmac Queue Also Sprach Zarathustra.

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                              • ricmac@mastodon.socialR ricmac@mastodon.social

                                Unfortunately, I think the next step might be: “What if we created a virtual DOM…”

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                                #35

                                @ricmac Agentic DOM

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                                • ricmac@mastodon.socialR ricmac@mastodon.social

                                  Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

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                                  #36

                                  @ricmac this is just sad.

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                                  • ricmac@mastodon.socialR ricmac@mastodon.social

                                    Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

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                                    #37

                                    @ricmac next up: semantic html
                                    🙈

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                                    • ricmac@mastodon.socialR ricmac@mastodon.social

                                      Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

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                                      @ricmac

                                      😮 WTH! Last time I saw a full style tag was about 20 years ago on a page with table layouts. These vibe coders really know F all about developing websites!

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                                      • ricmac@mastodon.socialR ricmac@mastodon.social

                                        Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

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                                        @ricmac What's next? Discovering coding?

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                                        • ricmac@mastodon.socialR ricmac@mastodon.social

                                          Curious find of the day: the AI community on X has seemingly re-discovered the World Wide Web, in that it now favours HTML over Markdown for “agents to communicate with us”: https://x.com/trq212/status/2052809885763747935?s=43 #AI #WhatGoesAroundComesAround

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                                          @ricmac I don't know the first thing about computer science, and even *I'm* here muttering "jesus fucking christ" to myself..

                                          Wow.

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