Curious find of the day: the AI community on X has seemingly re-discovered the World Wide Web, in that it now favours HTML over Markdown for “agents to communicate with us”: https://x
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Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

Wow. It's such a sh*t show.
"AI" (LLM style) is really a gathering point for the clueless, who then make important self-aggrandizing noise.
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@ricmac How much does handling 12000 (or 6000 for that matter) tokens cost? Do they need to submit the entire thing each time to get some sort of result: a fix, a change, extra code, reformatting, etc? What happens if you send an LLM just a tiny section of code without context? Does that work (I would assume either not at all or not very well) ... so does that mean that people using AI are burning through 1000's of tokens at time as they iterate through development? That sounds crazy expensive and wasteful!
All questions that should not need to be asked. If I need to ask those questions, the technology is crap.
Can we now get back to real programming? (I don't mean you. This utterance is directed at the world at large).
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Curious find of the day: the AI community on X has seemingly re-discovered the World Wide Web, in that it now favours HTML over Markdown for “agents to communicate with us”: https://x.com/trq212/status/2052809885763747935?s=43 #AI #WhatGoesAroundComesAround
@ricmac Unfortunately they haven’t yet discovered the concept of a “blog” where you can store posts without paying x dot com $40 a month
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@ricmac there are not enough facepalm memes online for this
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Unfortunately, I think the next step might be: “What if we created a virtual DOM…”
@ricmac be ready for everything canvas.
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what is happening
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Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

@ricmac Wait until they find out about web components

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Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

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Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

@ricmac This seems like the funny thing about AI token optimization is gives them a direct measure for good coding practices. I can't wait for them to be like "I found this awesome hack where I go deep and learn the tech so that I can give the AI better feedback. It saves so many tokens!"
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Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

@ricmac I feel like the old witch in the woods who knows all the secret spells who everyone ignores.
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@ricmac Unfortunately they haven’t yet discovered the concept of a “blog” where you can store posts without paying x dot com $40 a month
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Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

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Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

@ricmac What is a 12116 token HTML article? Haha, I'm so out of the loop on this topic, and it makes so little sense to me

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@ricmac @fionasboots This is the same bollock (as we say in Scotland, quaintly) all over again. The so-called "grep tax" and the cardinality of code residing within individual files contributing to filling the LLM's context window. It contributes towards "babysitting needed to get token-based generator to work" vs actual productivity. But hey! Time to make agentic automation scalable! /s
@ricmac I don't think grep deserves to have some perverse AI failure named after it! That aside, having found out what that term means, it just lends more credibility to the idea that humans and real intelligence are just better at this. LLMs are just for corporations to make money without producing any of their own value.
If you need an actual answer, as the person who wrote the code the LLM was trained on. Don't burn through tokens (in a way that isn't transparent) to come up with slop.
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Unfortunately, I think the next step might be: “What if we created a virtual DOM…”
@ricmac STOP GIVING THEM IDEAS (for free)
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@john.kreitlow.rocks "whoa, dude... wouldn't it, like, be strange if this was also more efficient in every other way? We couldn't be that lucky, tho. But what if..."
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Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

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@fionasboots @glitzersachen @ricmac “from the best programmers in the world” if only. What do one get when training the stuff on stack overflow and mediocre enterprise rest applications?

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Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

@ricmac But it seems he learned something Form the AI...
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Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

@ricmac we gotta laugh at AI-bros today because perhaps tomorrow they will be gone just like NFT
we can't postpone our laughter and ridicule
