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’Denmark Switches.’ A national campaign to collectively move off Big Tech.

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  • folfdk@helvede.netF folfdk@helvede.net

    @Orewoet

    One option could be
    https://cryptpad.fr/
    Should be easy to try out, unfortunately I don't have experience with it personally, but I've seen it recommended

    Cc
    @gambolputte @CiaraNi

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    @folfdk @gambolputte @CiaraNi Tak for the tip! That looks interesting, I had not heard of it yet. Bookmarked!

    I was thinking - but I haven't looked into it yet - that maybe there is some way to share a libre office file somehow. In that case some sort of cloud service could help. But it should be convenient and never confusing.
    Tuta says that they are working on a "tuta-drive" service - but I have no idea when that will be finished and what it will look like.

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    • orewoet@mas.toO orewoet@mas.to

      @folfdk @gambolputte @CiaraNi Tak for the tip! That looks interesting, I had not heard of it yet. Bookmarked!

      I was thinking - but I haven't looked into it yet - that maybe there is some way to share a libre office file somehow. In that case some sort of cloud service could help. But it should be convenient and never confusing.
      Tuta says that they are working on a "tuta-drive" service - but I have no idea when that will be finished and what it will look like.

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      @Orewoet

      You're welcome!

      That online LibreOffice experience is located here
      https://www.collaboraonline.com
      But I don't know much about it from a user perspective.

      @gambolputte @CiaraNi

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      • sebastian@mastodon.ccS sebastian@mastodon.cc

        @CiaraNi @lari @Flatus

        thanks from me too.
        I did not know that Hetzners Storage Share in fact = Nextcloud.
        EUR 4.29 for 1 TB is fair enough.
        I would consider that.

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        @CiaraNi @lari @Flatus

        just a follow up - thanks to your inspiration, i m now testing a combination of running

        a small Hetzner VPS as nextcloud front, with a Storage Box as data store.
        1 TB at 4 Euro, not bad.

        (i had a Storage Volume before, but thats EUR 22 for half of it, 500GB)

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        • sebastian@mastodon.ccS sebastian@mastodon.cc

          @CiaraNi @lari @Flatus

          just a follow up - thanks to your inspiration, i m now testing a combination of running

          a small Hetzner VPS as nextcloud front, with a Storage Box as data store.
          1 TB at 4 Euro, not bad.

          (i had a Storage Volume before, but thats EUR 22 for half of it, 500GB)

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          @sebastian @lari @Flatus I am still looking at cloud storage options, just moving everything to my own hard disk for the moment (and it may yet stay there, just there), so this is good info. Thanks for sharing it. The Hetzner sounds extremely doable and affordable.

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          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

            @sebastian @lari @Flatus I am still looking at cloud storage options, just moving everything to my own hard disk for the moment (and it may yet stay there, just there), so this is good info. Thanks for sharing it. The Hetzner sounds extremely doable and affordable.

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            @CiaraNi @lari @Flatus

            i have to say there s a noticable performance difference between Storage Box and a real Volume, not surprising, -
            as Storage Boxes are hardly meant for dynamic data -
            but is still need to find out whether that annoys me enough to justify paying 5 times the price ...🤔

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            • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

              Done

              #DanmarkSkifter

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              I'm enjoying the results of disenshittifying my digital life so much that I need a more celebratory word for it than 'disenshittifying'. So far, every solution I’ve switched to is better than the Big Tech one I left. Not ’better’ as in ’not enshittified’, but better designed. LibreOffice: does what I need and only does what I tell it to do. AntennaPod: much better features than Spotify. Tuta: functional and calm and 10 months later, I still haven’t received a single spam mail.

              #DanmarkSkifter

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              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                I'm enjoying the results of disenshittifying my digital life so much that I need a more celebratory word for it than 'disenshittifying'. So far, every solution I’ve switched to is better than the Big Tech one I left. Not ’better’ as in ’not enshittified’, but better designed. LibreOffice: does what I need and only does what I tell it to do. AntennaPod: much better features than Spotify. Tuta: functional and calm and 10 months later, I still haven’t received a single spam mail.

                #DanmarkSkifter

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                @CiaraNi I love AntennaPod! It works on my old Samsung S5 phone that runs LineageOS.

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                • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                  I'm enjoying the results of disenshittifying my digital life so much that I need a more celebratory word for it than 'disenshittifying'. So far, every solution I’ve switched to is better than the Big Tech one I left. Not ’better’ as in ’not enshittified’, but better designed. LibreOffice: does what I need and only does what I tell it to do. AntennaPod: much better features than Spotify. Tuta: functional and calm and 10 months later, I still haven’t received a single spam mail.

                  #DanmarkSkifter

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                  @CiaraNi AntennaPod Android only

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                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                    I'm enjoying the results of disenshittifying my digital life so much that I need a more celebratory word for it than 'disenshittifying'. So far, every solution I’ve switched to is better than the Big Tech one I left. Not ’better’ as in ’not enshittified’, but better designed. LibreOffice: does what I need and only does what I tell it to do. AntennaPod: much better features than Spotify. Tuta: functional and calm and 10 months later, I still haven’t received a single spam mail.

                    #DanmarkSkifter

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                    I stopped using Booking.com ages ago, tired of the spam and Big Corporateness of it. Now I only book directly with hotels. Every time, it's cheaper and the experience is better. If I need to contact a hotel, I communicate with a human. When I needed to make a date change not covered by the booking: 'no problem!' They changed it instantly for free. I'd forgotten how actual customer service used to be. I also forgot to actually delete my account. #DanmarkSkifter reminded me. I just deleted it.

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                    • rhempel@mstdn.caR rhempel@mstdn.ca

                      @CiaraNi I love AntennaPod! It works on my old Samsung S5 phone that runs LineageOS.

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                      @rhempel It is so good, isn't it. It has actually smart features, as in 'smart and helpful for the user'. I found it randomly after switching to F-Droid, one of several new-to-me apps I found that way.

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                      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                        I'm enjoying the results of disenshittifying my digital life so much that I need a more celebratory word for it than 'disenshittifying'. So far, every solution I’ve switched to is better than the Big Tech one I left. Not ’better’ as in ’not enshittified’, but better designed. LibreOffice: does what I need and only does what I tell it to do. AntennaPod: much better features than Spotify. Tuta: functional and calm and 10 months later, I still haven’t received a single spam mail.

                        #DanmarkSkifter

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                        @CiaraNi I think words like 'liberating' work well. Or maybe 'glorifying' if you want to sound a bit grand. It's only the bad thing that needed a new word.

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                        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                          I'm enjoying the results of disenshittifying my digital life so much that I need a more celebratory word for it than 'disenshittifying'. So far, every solution I’ve switched to is better than the Big Tech one I left. Not ’better’ as in ’not enshittified’, but better designed. LibreOffice: does what I need and only does what I tell it to do. AntennaPod: much better features than Spotify. Tuta: functional and calm and 10 months later, I still haven’t received a single spam mail.

                          #DanmarkSkifter

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                          @CiaraNi
                          Also on LibreOffice. I haven't yet replaced my Windows with a Linux & still have Android on my sparsely apped 7y-old Oppo, but Guggl, Metta, Amerzon, Appul are all deleted/uBlocked & I have never missed any of them.

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                          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                            I've added a new 2026 Digital Resolution to my 'Denmark switches from Big Tech' goals.

                            I had already switched from Patreon to Steady. Thanks to @JohanEmpa for making that possible after he added Steady as a Mastodon.green payment option.

                            Now my Microsoft subscription is the only thing left on PayPal and I'm almost deMicrosofted. So I'll be cancelling, not renewing, that. So now I commit to deleting my PayPal account. Today. Inspired by @oldrup, who just did this.

                            #DanmarkSkifter

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                            @CiaraNi @oldrup @JohanEmpa What's Steady? You've got a link?
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                            • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                              I stopped using Booking.com ages ago, tired of the spam and Big Corporateness of it. Now I only book directly with hotels. Every time, it's cheaper and the experience is better. If I need to contact a hotel, I communicate with a human. When I needed to make a date change not covered by the booking: 'no problem!' They changed it instantly for free. I'd forgotten how actual customer service used to be. I also forgot to actually delete my account. #DanmarkSkifter reminded me. I just deleted it.

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                              @CiaraNi Once again reminded of one of the big booking sites getting a hotel's disability accommodations completely wrong. I had an itch so I called the hotel directly and they admitted Big Site got it wrong and cancelled without a fuss. Called a replacement hotel on the phone and they confirmed accommodations and booked us in a flash.

                              I hate doing things on the phone, but I'll make an exception for hotels.

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                              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                I stopped using Booking.com ages ago, tired of the spam and Big Corporateness of it. Now I only book directly with hotels. Every time, it's cheaper and the experience is better. If I need to contact a hotel, I communicate with a human. When I needed to make a date change not covered by the booking: 'no problem!' They changed it instantly for free. I'd forgotten how actual customer service used to be. I also forgot to actually delete my account. #DanmarkSkifter reminded me. I just deleted it.

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                                @CiaraNi

                                This makes so much sense! I shall be following in your footsteps the next time we go away.

                                Stuff the Booking dot this, and Airb&b that! They make a pretence of being cheaper but often aren't and, if anything, are taking a large percentage away from the smaller hotels and B&Bs.

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                                • stveje@mstdn.socialS stveje@mstdn.social

                                  @CiaraNi I think words like 'liberating' work well. Or maybe 'glorifying' if you want to sound a bit grand. It's only the bad thing that needed a new word.

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                                  @stveje

                                  "It's only the bad thing that needed a new word"

                                  That's it! I was hoping for relief and liberation, which is what I'm getting. But I was so focused on escaping the Bad Thing that I didn't anticipate how much *better* the non-Big Tech replacement solutions would be. It doesn't feel as negative as 'disenshittifying', but more positive. As an end user, every alternative to Big Tech solution so far feels like an upgrade.

                                  #DanmarkSkifter

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                                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                    I'm enjoying the results of disenshittifying my digital life so much that I need a more celebratory word for it than 'disenshittifying'. So far, every solution I’ve switched to is better than the Big Tech one I left. Not ’better’ as in ’not enshittified’, but better designed. LibreOffice: does what I need and only does what I tell it to do. AntennaPod: much better features than Spotify. Tuta: functional and calm and 10 months later, I still haven’t received a single spam mail.

                                    #DanmarkSkifter

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                                    @CiaraNi I think this migration to find tools to use, instead of being used by tools, gives me #DigitalAfterlife vibes. The existence of life after enshittification.

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                                    • quantillion@mstdn.ioQ quantillion@mstdn.io

                                      @CiaraNi
                                      Also on LibreOffice. I haven't yet replaced my Windows with a Linux & still have Android on my sparsely apped 7y-old Oppo, but Guggl, Metta, Amerzon, Appul are all deleted/uBlocked & I have never missed any of them.

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                                      @Quantillion It's both liberating and a good learning experience, how little we miss programmes and solutions we once thought were everyday essentials.

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                                      • troublewithwords@wandering.shopT troublewithwords@wandering.shop

                                        @CiaraNi Once again reminded of one of the big booking sites getting a hotel's disability accommodations completely wrong. I had an itch so I called the hotel directly and they admitted Big Site got it wrong and cancelled without a fuss. Called a replacement hotel on the phone and they confirmed accommodations and booked us in a flash.

                                        I hate doing things on the phone, but I'll make an exception for hotels.

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                                        @troublewithwords This matches my experience. A quick phone call to an actual human at the actual hotel and it's sorted in a flash. It's good that you twigged something might be awry and were able to fix it beforehand.

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                                        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                          I stopped using Booking.com ages ago, tired of the spam and Big Corporateness of it. Now I only book directly with hotels. Every time, it's cheaper and the experience is better. If I need to contact a hotel, I communicate with a human. When I needed to make a date change not covered by the booking: 'no problem!' They changed it instantly for free. I'd forgotten how actual customer service used to be. I also forgot to actually delete my account. #DanmarkSkifter reminded me. I just deleted it.

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                                          @CiaraNi
                                          When our family visited the UK last fall, I did the same thing. Almost every BnB gave us a discount for direct booking., and we got to deal directly with the owners.

                                          Here's a good way to turn the tables on those third party booking sites: reverse showrooming. Use the online resource to find the lodging you're interested in, then bypass them entirely with a direct contact on their own website or by email.

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