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’Denmark Switches.’ A national campaign to collectively move off Big Tech.

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  • orewoet@mas.toO orewoet@mas.to

    @Tutanota @gambolputte @CiaraNi

    I admit that I don't really understand the Family option. I guess that the family option gives the possibility to add a family member to a subscription, so there is one "admin" for two (or more) persons.

    But it costs the same as two separate subscriptions, so I personally don't really see the point.
    It sounds good though, so is there perhaps another difference I am missing?

    Edit: I found out that it gives a shared storage and a shared email possibility. Hmm...

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    @Tutanota @gambolputte @CiaraNi I made an account for my wife a week or two ago. So far, after using Tuta Calendar a week or so, it works flawlessly.
    It is very simular to gcal and can easily handle our busy scheduled week, with two or even 3 appointments at the same time.

    The Android widget is a bit different from gcal, but it is clear and works well in my opinion. And the calender app is then just one click away.

    Next up: moving shared Google Docs to... ?
    #danmarkskifter

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    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

      ’Denmark Switches.’ A national campaign to collectively move off Big Tech. March 20th is Big Switch Day. I’ve named my goal now. I’m already almost deMicrosofted, except for my photo archive. I moved to Libre & Tuta mail and have been purging photos as I await the release of Tuta drive. Now I’m committing myself to just get the photos off OneDrive and on to my computer, that I own, in my house, by March 20th. Then I’ll delete Microsoft. Then I’ll boast about it on the Fediverse.

      #DanmarkSkifter

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      @CiaraNi
      > Now I’m committing myself to just get the photos off OneDrive and on to my computer, that I own, in my house

      I've heard a thought that information which exists in just one copy can be considered unimportant. One copy can become no copies very quickly, so important things should be backed up, ideally in geographically separate locations.
      I'd suggest to take a look at Hetzner StorageBox (just backup service) or StorageShare (managed Nextcloud, where you get your own storage, online photo album, contact sync, documents, etc).

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      • dzm@mstdn.dkD dzm@mstdn.dk

        @CiaraNi
        > Now I’m committing myself to just get the photos off OneDrive and on to my computer, that I own, in my house

        I've heard a thought that information which exists in just one copy can be considered unimportant. One copy can become no copies very quickly, so important things should be backed up, ideally in geographically separate locations.
        I'd suggest to take a look at Hetzner StorageBox (just backup service) or StorageShare (managed Nextcloud, where you get your own storage, online photo album, contact sync, documents, etc).

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        @dzm

        "information which exists in just one copy can be considered unimportant"

        I've just been thinking about this very idea, as it happens. I've been massively deleting files and photos, as I remove my stuff step-by-step from Microsoft's cloud. The process has made me think harder about what's important and what's not. The files I am removing from the cloud go on to my computer and also on to an external hard drive, and I think I'll do a further cull of those later. It's a useful process.

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        • dzm@mstdn.dkD dzm@mstdn.dk

          @CiaraNi
          > Now I’m committing myself to just get the photos off OneDrive and on to my computer, that I own, in my house

          I've heard a thought that information which exists in just one copy can be considered unimportant. One copy can become no copies very quickly, so important things should be backed up, ideally in geographically separate locations.
          I'd suggest to take a look at Hetzner StorageBox (just backup service) or StorageShare (managed Nextcloud, where you get your own storage, online photo album, contact sync, documents, etc).

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          @dzm

          "I'd suggest to take a look at Hetzner StorageBox (just backup service) or StorageShare (managed Nextcloud, where you get your own storage, online photo album, contact sync, documents, etc)."

          Thank you for these recommendations. I have been waiting for Tuta drive as I already subscribe to Tuta mail and calendar, but there's still no sign of it so I am interested now in other European alternatives. The managed NextCloud one piques my interest. Tak - I appreciate the tips.

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          • orewoet@mas.toO orewoet@mas.to

            @Tutanota @gambolputte @CiaraNi I made an account for my wife a week or two ago. So far, after using Tuta Calendar a week or so, it works flawlessly.
            It is very simular to gcal and can easily handle our busy scheduled week, with two or even 3 appointments at the same time.

            The Android widget is a bit different from gcal, but it is clear and works well in my opinion. And the calender app is then just one click away.

            Next up: moving shared Google Docs to... ?
            #danmarkskifter

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            @Orewoet Good to know that it's working well. I hope you can find an equally useful alternative to Google Docs 🤞🏻

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            • orewoet@mas.toO orewoet@mas.to

              @Tutanota @gambolputte @CiaraNi I made an account for my wife a week or two ago. So far, after using Tuta Calendar a week or so, it works flawlessly.
              It is very simular to gcal and can easily handle our busy scheduled week, with two or even 3 appointments at the same time.

              The Android widget is a bit different from gcal, but it is clear and works well in my opinion. And the calender app is then just one click away.

              Next up: moving shared Google Docs to... ?
              #danmarkskifter

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              @Orewoet

              One option could be
              https://cryptpad.fr/
              Should be easy to try out, unfortunately I don't have experience with it personally, but I've seen it recommended

              Cc
              @gambolputte @CiaraNi

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              • folfdk@helvede.netF folfdk@helvede.net

                @Orewoet

                One option could be
                https://cryptpad.fr/
                Should be easy to try out, unfortunately I don't have experience with it personally, but I've seen it recommended

                Cc
                @gambolputte @CiaraNi

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                @folfdk @gambolputte @CiaraNi Tak for the tip! That looks interesting, I had not heard of it yet. Bookmarked!

                I was thinking - but I haven't looked into it yet - that maybe there is some way to share a libre office file somehow. In that case some sort of cloud service could help. But it should be convenient and never confusing.
                Tuta says that they are working on a "tuta-drive" service - but I have no idea when that will be finished and what it will look like.

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                • orewoet@mas.toO orewoet@mas.to

                  @folfdk @gambolputte @CiaraNi Tak for the tip! That looks interesting, I had not heard of it yet. Bookmarked!

                  I was thinking - but I haven't looked into it yet - that maybe there is some way to share a libre office file somehow. In that case some sort of cloud service could help. But it should be convenient and never confusing.
                  Tuta says that they are working on a "tuta-drive" service - but I have no idea when that will be finished and what it will look like.

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                  @Orewoet

                  You're welcome!

                  That online LibreOffice experience is located here
                  https://www.collaboraonline.com
                  But I don't know much about it from a user perspective.

                  @gambolputte @CiaraNi

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                  • sebastian@mastodon.ccS sebastian@mastodon.cc

                    @CiaraNi @lari @Flatus

                    thanks from me too.
                    I did not know that Hetzners Storage Share in fact = Nextcloud.
                    EUR 4.29 for 1 TB is fair enough.
                    I would consider that.

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                    @CiaraNi @lari @Flatus

                    just a follow up - thanks to your inspiration, i m now testing a combination of running

                    a small Hetzner VPS as nextcloud front, with a Storage Box as data store.
                    1 TB at 4 Euro, not bad.

                    (i had a Storage Volume before, but thats EUR 22 for half of it, 500GB)

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                    • sebastian@mastodon.ccS sebastian@mastodon.cc

                      @CiaraNi @lari @Flatus

                      just a follow up - thanks to your inspiration, i m now testing a combination of running

                      a small Hetzner VPS as nextcloud front, with a Storage Box as data store.
                      1 TB at 4 Euro, not bad.

                      (i had a Storage Volume before, but thats EUR 22 for half of it, 500GB)

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                      @sebastian @lari @Flatus I am still looking at cloud storage options, just moving everything to my own hard disk for the moment (and it may yet stay there, just there), so this is good info. Thanks for sharing it. The Hetzner sounds extremely doable and affordable.

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                      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                        @sebastian @lari @Flatus I am still looking at cloud storage options, just moving everything to my own hard disk for the moment (and it may yet stay there, just there), so this is good info. Thanks for sharing it. The Hetzner sounds extremely doable and affordable.

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                        @CiaraNi @lari @Flatus

                        i have to say there s a noticable performance difference between Storage Box and a real Volume, not surprising, -
                        as Storage Boxes are hardly meant for dynamic data -
                        but is still need to find out whether that annoys me enough to justify paying 5 times the price ...🤔

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                        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                          Done

                          #DanmarkSkifter

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                          I'm enjoying the results of disenshittifying my digital life so much that I need a more celebratory word for it than 'disenshittifying'. So far, every solution I’ve switched to is better than the Big Tech one I left. Not ’better’ as in ’not enshittified’, but better designed. LibreOffice: does what I need and only does what I tell it to do. AntennaPod: much better features than Spotify. Tuta: functional and calm and 10 months later, I still haven’t received a single spam mail.

                          #DanmarkSkifter

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                          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                            I'm enjoying the results of disenshittifying my digital life so much that I need a more celebratory word for it than 'disenshittifying'. So far, every solution I’ve switched to is better than the Big Tech one I left. Not ’better’ as in ’not enshittified’, but better designed. LibreOffice: does what I need and only does what I tell it to do. AntennaPod: much better features than Spotify. Tuta: functional and calm and 10 months later, I still haven’t received a single spam mail.

                            #DanmarkSkifter

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                            @CiaraNi I love AntennaPod! It works on my old Samsung S5 phone that runs LineageOS.

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                            • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                              I'm enjoying the results of disenshittifying my digital life so much that I need a more celebratory word for it than 'disenshittifying'. So far, every solution I’ve switched to is better than the Big Tech one I left. Not ’better’ as in ’not enshittified’, but better designed. LibreOffice: does what I need and only does what I tell it to do. AntennaPod: much better features than Spotify. Tuta: functional and calm and 10 months later, I still haven’t received a single spam mail.

                              #DanmarkSkifter

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                              @CiaraNi AntennaPod Android only

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                              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                I'm enjoying the results of disenshittifying my digital life so much that I need a more celebratory word for it than 'disenshittifying'. So far, every solution I’ve switched to is better than the Big Tech one I left. Not ’better’ as in ’not enshittified’, but better designed. LibreOffice: does what I need and only does what I tell it to do. AntennaPod: much better features than Spotify. Tuta: functional and calm and 10 months later, I still haven’t received a single spam mail.

                                #DanmarkSkifter

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                                I stopped using Booking.com ages ago, tired of the spam and Big Corporateness of it. Now I only book directly with hotels. Every time, it's cheaper and the experience is better. If I need to contact a hotel, I communicate with a human. When I needed to make a date change not covered by the booking: 'no problem!' They changed it instantly for free. I'd forgotten how actual customer service used to be. I also forgot to actually delete my account. #DanmarkSkifter reminded me. I just deleted it.

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                                • rhempel@mstdn.caR rhempel@mstdn.ca

                                  @CiaraNi I love AntennaPod! It works on my old Samsung S5 phone that runs LineageOS.

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                                  @rhempel It is so good, isn't it. It has actually smart features, as in 'smart and helpful for the user'. I found it randomly after switching to F-Droid, one of several new-to-me apps I found that way.

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                                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                    I'm enjoying the results of disenshittifying my digital life so much that I need a more celebratory word for it than 'disenshittifying'. So far, every solution I’ve switched to is better than the Big Tech one I left. Not ’better’ as in ’not enshittified’, but better designed. LibreOffice: does what I need and only does what I tell it to do. AntennaPod: much better features than Spotify. Tuta: functional and calm and 10 months later, I still haven’t received a single spam mail.

                                    #DanmarkSkifter

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                                    @CiaraNi I think words like 'liberating' work well. Or maybe 'glorifying' if you want to sound a bit grand. It's only the bad thing that needed a new word.

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                                    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                      I'm enjoying the results of disenshittifying my digital life so much that I need a more celebratory word for it than 'disenshittifying'. So far, every solution I’ve switched to is better than the Big Tech one I left. Not ’better’ as in ’not enshittified’, but better designed. LibreOffice: does what I need and only does what I tell it to do. AntennaPod: much better features than Spotify. Tuta: functional and calm and 10 months later, I still haven’t received a single spam mail.

                                      #DanmarkSkifter

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                                      @CiaraNi
                                      Also on LibreOffice. I haven't yet replaced my Windows with a Linux & still have Android on my sparsely apped 7y-old Oppo, but Guggl, Metta, Amerzon, Appul are all deleted/uBlocked & I have never missed any of them.

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                                      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                        I've added a new 2026 Digital Resolution to my 'Denmark switches from Big Tech' goals.

                                        I had already switched from Patreon to Steady. Thanks to @JohanEmpa for making that possible after he added Steady as a Mastodon.green payment option.

                                        Now my Microsoft subscription is the only thing left on PayPal and I'm almost deMicrosofted. So I'll be cancelling, not renewing, that. So now I commit to deleting my PayPal account. Today. Inspired by @oldrup, who just did this.

                                        #DanmarkSkifter

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                                        @CiaraNi @oldrup @JohanEmpa What's Steady? You've got a link?
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                                          I stopped using Booking.com ages ago, tired of the spam and Big Corporateness of it. Now I only book directly with hotels. Every time, it's cheaper and the experience is better. If I need to contact a hotel, I communicate with a human. When I needed to make a date change not covered by the booking: 'no problem!' They changed it instantly for free. I'd forgotten how actual customer service used to be. I also forgot to actually delete my account. #DanmarkSkifter reminded me. I just deleted it.

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                                          @CiaraNi Once again reminded of one of the big booking sites getting a hotel's disability accommodations completely wrong. I had an itch so I called the hotel directly and they admitted Big Site got it wrong and cancelled without a fuss. Called a replacement hotel on the phone and they confirmed accommodations and booked us in a flash.

                                          I hate doing things on the phone, but I'll make an exception for hotels.

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