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  • dodosan@diaspodon.frD dodosan@diaspodon.fr

    @smallcircles "... mad scientist's urban planning experiment"

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    @dodosan exciting, in a good way then?

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    • princeofdenmark@mas.toP princeofdenmark@mas.to

      @smallcircles “I thought we were an autonomous collective.”

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      @PrinceOfDenmark do the square quotes indicate we aren't there yet? A collective sounds to me like it is very tight-knit. Shouldn't it be plural?

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      • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

        @PrinceOfDenmark do the square quotes indicate we aren't there yet? A collective sounds to me like it is very tight-knit. Shouldn't it be plural?

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        @smallcircles Quoting Monty Python. 😎

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        • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

          @unattributed I like that imagery, thank you. That aligns with the notion of a peopleverse/ Forming a road network that connects the offline and online worlds.

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          @smallcircles Exactly, it's kind of like each person has their own topography of what the Fediverse looks like based on who they are interacting with, and the nodes of interests where they intersect.

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          • princeofdenmark@mas.toP princeofdenmark@mas.to

            @smallcircles Quoting Monty Python. 😎

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            @PrinceOfDenmark ha! Love that.

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            • unattributed@gotosocial.socialU unattributed@gotosocial.social

              @smallcircles Exactly, it's kind of like each person has their own topography of what the Fediverse looks like based on who they are interacting with, and the nodes of interests where they intersect.

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              @unattributed

              I call thinking about how people would experience such a network and taking their needs in account to be examples of Personal social networking in a new paradigm that differs to how we now think about social media (which is in a very technical sense characterized by "people are users").

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              • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                @unattributed

                I call thinking about how people would experience such a network and taking their needs in account to be examples of Personal social networking in a new paradigm that differs to how we now think about social media (which is in a very technical sense characterized by "people are users").

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                @unattributed

                On that last bit..

                "If as a developer you call your people users, you just lost the first battle of a great solution design."

                -- Some dude on the fediverse 😅

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                • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                  Complete this sentence:

                  "I experience #fediverse as a .."

                  #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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                  @smallcircles 70% cozy village ! My... expérience is so different of obvious majorities ! Even here

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                  • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                    @unattributed

                    On that last bit..

                    "If as a developer you call your people users, you just lost the first battle of a great solution design."

                    -- Some dude on the fediverse 😅

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                    @smallcircles Well, there are a couple of potential negative connotations to the word user.  First, "user" was frequently used in the 90's for the customers that purchased some software products.

                    Then there is also the connotation of "drug" users.

                    Maybe the Fediverse is better thought of as groups of participants in communities that may or may not overlap.

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                    • unattributed@gotosocial.socialU unattributed@gotosocial.social

                      @smallcircles Well, there are a couple of potential negative connotations to the word user.  First, "user" was frequently used in the 90's for the customers that purchased some software products.

                      Then there is also the connotation of "drug" users.

                      Maybe the Fediverse is better thought of as groups of participants in communities that may or may not overlap.

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                      @smallcircles Just re-thinking this a moment... What if it can be seen as individuals that define their own communities (which may / may not overlap).

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                      • unattributed@gotosocial.socialU unattributed@gotosocial.social

                        @smallcircles Just re-thinking this a moment... What if it can be seen as individuals that define their own communities (which may / may not overlap).

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                        @unattributed exactly.

                        I practiced myself in avoidance of the term, and found that to be refreshing and lending a different perspective.

                        "Users" carries an aspect of depersonalization, but also implies an ownership relationship that creeps into the developers thinking, and even where the noble ones say "I serve MY users" it has consequences to the entire dynamics around software dynamics, and how the solution deliverable is able to serve the needs of different stakeholder groups.

                        Social experience design focusses on needs-based development and starts to consider problem statements first for all identified stakeholders in the solution delivery process.

                        For fediverse I use #fedizens on occasion, the residents of the fedi universe.

                        #SX #SocialCoding

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                        • amans@piaille.frA amans@piaille.fr

                          @smallcircles 70% cozy village ! My... expérience is so different of obvious majorities ! Even here

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                          @amans happy to hear that! There are a lot of fedi villagers on this thread, which is delightful. 😃

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                          • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                            @unattributed exactly.

                            I practiced myself in avoidance of the term, and found that to be refreshing and lending a different perspective.

                            "Users" carries an aspect of depersonalization, but also implies an ownership relationship that creeps into the developers thinking, and even where the noble ones say "I serve MY users" it has consequences to the entire dynamics around software dynamics, and how the solution deliverable is able to serve the needs of different stakeholder groups.

                            Social experience design focusses on needs-based development and starts to consider problem statements first for all identified stakeholders in the solution delivery process.

                            For fediverse I use #fedizens on occasion, the residents of the fedi universe.

                            #SX #SocialCoding

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                            @unattributed

                            Note that once you are conditioned to avoid the term "User" after a full career of addictive use of the word in that dev context, you start to notice how weird and awkward it really is.

                            You don't notice that while still addicted to your daily dose of saying "user" in broad generalization and technical abstraction. Devs think it is practical to use the word, pragmatic. But it is not. It is a technical word, and the use is similar to when a dev says "JSON" for instance. It is depersonalized, and that depersonalization seeps deep into the codebase over time. It is a word that anchors devs in the technosphere and keeps them there.

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                            • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                              @amans happy to hear that! There are a lot of fedi villagers on this thread, which is delightful. 😃

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                              @smallcircles happy to read this also

                              Well, let's try to cross more often the ocean then to join your social village-like (i understand "good-will-and-possibly-kind") communitieS

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                              • amans@piaille.frA amans@piaille.fr

                                @smallcircles happy to read this also

                                Well, let's try to cross more often the ocean then to join your social village-like (i understand "good-will-and-possibly-kind") communitieS

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                                @amans certainly, and welcome 🤗

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                                • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                                  Complete this sentence:

                                  "I experience #fediverse as a .."

                                  #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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                                  @smallcircles A friendly global village, although a bit white.

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                                  • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                                    Complete this sentence:

                                    "I experience #fediverse as a .."

                                    #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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                                    @smallcircles An opensource school

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                                    • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                                      @octarine_wiggle I like that description, thanks.

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                                      @smallcircles I should mention I was trying to capture my experience as an anonymous user. I would still guess the town analogy is generally apt.

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                                      • cedo@mastodon.nlC cedo@mastodon.nl

                                        @smallcircles An opensource school

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                                        @CEDO

                                        Een sidestep.. Het valt me op dat bijna niemand op de fediverse meer boost. Een boost is een schaars goed, en op zich is dat een gunstige ontwikkeling die aansluit bi het Personal social networking paradigma van SX. Maar voor orgs en mensen die een goede boodschap willen overdragen naar een groter publiek, zoals ook CEDO, is het geen goede zaak. Er moet een goede balans zijn, waarbij ook non-profits en actie groepen het gevoel hebben nut te behalen dmv campagnes i.p.v. tijdrovende friend-of-a-friend netwerk opbouw.

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                                        • octarine_wiggle@mastodon.auO octarine_wiggle@mastodon.au

                                          @smallcircles I should mention I was trying to capture my experience as an anonymous user. I would still guess the town analogy is generally apt.

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                                          @octarine_wiggle

                                          That is a nice thing the fediverse offers. Note that if you enter a descriptive email in your account registration, or talk about personal matters in fedi direct messages, then technically you are pseudonymous as the instance admins have access to that information if they wish to.

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