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  3. I remember being really shocked finding out Trump won in 2024.

I remember being really shocked finding out Trump won in 2024.

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  • M mike805@noc.social

    @benroyce @DavidNielsen @randahl We have incompatible worldviews and we aren't going to convince each other of anything. Oh well. That is life in a divided society.

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    @mike805 @DavidNielsen @randahl the divide between truth and hysteria is the divide between serious people and MAGA idiots

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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      I remember being really shocked finding out Trump won in 2024. Because I new that was a decisive dark moment in history.

      On Sunday, there is a new decisive moment, when the Hungarians decide if Viktor Orbán's corrupt regime continues, or Péter Magyar takes over.

      Let this time be different.

      The Hungarians need a brighter future.

      The world needs a brighter future.

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      @randahl

      true words, Randahl. I posted on Facebook earlier after seeing a post claiming that JD Vance's endorsement of Orban dropped Orban 3 pts. So, I said, JD needs to go back 2 more days!

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      • M mike805@noc.social

        @benroyce @DavidNielsen @randahl Russia is fascistic and the EU is going either Islamist or Communist or both. Not equating them, they are opposites, but in the hell or high water sense. I'd rather avoid both.

        The opposite of a bad thing is not always a good thing.

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        @mike805 FYI I reported your comment for spreading racist conspiracy theories.

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        • samsenbdri@mastodon.socialS samsenbdri@mastodon.social

          @randahl
          I remember the turn of the millennium when Putin came to power. He was officially elected president in March 2000. There was hope, but this feeling wouldn't leave me. Power corrupts people, but hope always wants to remain the prevailing emotion. Is it human arrogance or a systemic flaw, the lust for power or hope?

          Most Hungarians would probably govern the country more honestly than Viktor Orbán. So let's hope—for Hungary, for Europe, and for a minimum of justice.

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          @SamsenBdRi @randahl He already was corrupt at that time (see his work in St. Petersburg administration).

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          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

            I remember being really shocked finding out Trump won in 2024. Because I new that was a decisive dark moment in history.

            On Sunday, there is a new decisive moment, when the Hungarians decide if Viktor Orbán's corrupt regime continues, or Péter Magyar takes over.

            Let this time be different.

            The Hungarians need a brighter future.

            The world needs a brighter future.

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            @randahl

            Praying that Vance’s endorsement will sink Orban…

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @mike805 @DavidNielsen @randahl

              well thank you for the most deranged comment i've gotten all week

              you're equating russia and the eu?

              what the fuck brain rot is that?

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              @benroyce I reported and blocked this user. Different opinions are ok — spreading racist q-anon/MAGA conspiracy theories is where I say nope.

              @DavidNielsen @randahl

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              • M mike805@noc.social

                @benroyce @DavidNielsen @randahl Demographics is destiny, and if nothing changes, the EU will be Islamic in a few decades. That is math, not politics.

                They have also made a lot of dumb economic decisions, like Germany becoming dependent on Russian gas and then getting rid of its nuclear power.

                Russia is worse, yes. That doesn't make the EU good. I'd like to see Eastern Europe remain independent from both.

                If the EU and Russia get into a war they will want the USA to come in. We should not.

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                @mike805 @benroyce @DavidNielsen @randahl Heard of NATO by any chance? Your far right replacement theory is laughable claptrap and racist with it. The EU is currently experiencing a large influx (hundreds of thousands in the past year) from the US. It won't ever be American. Clearly you don't know anything about the EU and have the intelligence and ethics of your leader. Suggesting you stick to Twitter is generous. TruthSocial would be more appropriate.

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                • mastophilipp@mastodon.socialM mastophilipp@mastodon.social

                  @SamsenBdRi @randahl He already was corrupt at that time (see his work in St. Petersburg administration).

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                  @mastophilipp @randahl
                  My statement in 2000: "Beware, he is a KGB officer of the middle management level" who allegedly made the deal of his life with Yeltsin.

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                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                    I remember being really shocked finding out Trump won in 2024. Because I new that was a decisive dark moment in history.

                    On Sunday, there is a new decisive moment, when the Hungarians decide if Viktor Orbán's corrupt regime continues, or Péter Magyar takes over.

                    Let this time be different.

                    The Hungarians need a brighter future.

                    The world needs a brighter future.

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                    @randahl

                    I really hoped this will be better, but as far as I have read Péter Magyar is a soft liner of Viktor Orbán.

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @mike805 @DavidNielsen @randahl

                      "EU is going either Islamist or Communist or both"

                      mike:

                      please put down the crack pipe

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                      @benroyce @mike805 @DavidNielsen @randahl Islamic communism #ftw 😂

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                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                        I remember being really shocked finding out Trump won in 2024. Because I new that was a decisive dark moment in history.

                        On Sunday, there is a new decisive moment, when the Hungarians decide if Viktor Orbán's corrupt regime continues, or Péter Magyar takes over.

                        Let this time be different.

                        The Hungarians need a brighter future.

                        The world needs a brighter future.

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                        @randahl

                        Peter Hungarian or Viktor Russian, who will win?

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @DavidNielsen @randahl

                          we want to be free of Orban, so let's get Magyar in first

                          *then* apply the criticism of Magyar

                          not now!

                          Magyar is pro-EU, Orban is busy licking Putin's boots

                          that choice alone is a huge earthquake

                          you understand that

                          therefore:

                          right now, on April 9, you want to be singing the praises of Peter Magyar

                          right?

                          a little strategic intelligence please!

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                          @benroyce @randahl I will not be doing so, but I will be happy that Orbán is hopefully gone (he did do an impressive job rigging the election system, so I am not entirely sure he will actually lose, or do a Trump when he does).

                          I don’t prescribe to the idea that in order to not be shit, let alone actually be good, we have to first tolerate shit light.

                          There are surely not shit candidates the world could promote and promise good relations with, to give them a serious boost in the polls.

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                          • davidnielsen@mastodon.socialD davidnielsen@mastodon.social

                            @benroyce @randahl I will not be doing so, but I will be happy that Orbán is hopefully gone (he did do an impressive job rigging the election system, so I am not entirely sure he will actually lose, or do a Trump when he does).

                            I don’t prescribe to the idea that in order to not be shit, let alone actually be good, we have to first tolerate shit light.

                            There are surely not shit candidates the world could promote and promise good relations with, to give them a serious boost in the polls.

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                            @DavidNielsen @randahl

                            the problem with your statement is every candidate possible has problems. and even if they were practically angels, simple human gossip would find something, anything, about them that could be criticized, and reduce them to "shit lite"

                            essentially: in life, yes, your only options, now, in all history, and forever more, is between shit and shit lite

                            and if you don't make a choice, you only guarantee shit

                            while if you consistently choose, you iterate to better

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                              @DavidNielsen @randahl

                              the problem with your statement is every candidate possible has problems. and even if they were practically angels, simple human gossip would find something, anything, about them that could be criticized, and reduce them to "shit lite"

                              essentially: in life, yes, your only options, now, in all history, and forever more, is between shit and shit lite

                              and if you don't make a choice, you only guarantee shit

                              while if you consistently choose, you iterate to better

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                              @benroyce @DavidNielsen @randahl In addition to this I think most people do not much care for foreigners to "advise" or "endorse" candidates in their countries elections.

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                              • martinlentink@mastodon.socialM martinlentink@mastodon.social

                                @benroyce @DavidNielsen @randahl In addition to this I think most people do not much care for foreigners to "advise" or "endorse" candidates in their countries elections.

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                                @martinlentink @DavidNielsen @randahl

                                you're talking about this:

                                " #Orban’s Chances of Winning #Hungary Election Drop After JD #Vance Rally"

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                                Orban's chances of winning Hungary election drop after JD Vance rally

                                Orban is one of President Donald Trump's key European political allies.

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                                so it's the same as #trump saying stupid shit about #canada, helping #poilievre lose to #carney

                                so while #europe is right to be bothered by populist right wing assholes from outside the #eu coming and messing in european #politics, europe can take some solace that the move tends to backfire

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @martinlentink @DavidNielsen @randahl

                                  you're talking about this:

                                  " #Orban’s Chances of Winning #Hungary Election Drop After JD #Vance Rally"

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                                  Orban's chances of winning Hungary election drop after JD Vance rally

                                  Orban is one of President Donald Trump's key European political allies.

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                                  Newsweek (www.newsweek.com)

                                  so it's the same as #trump saying stupid shit about #canada, helping #poilievre lose to #carney

                                  so while #europe is right to be bothered by populist right wing assholes from outside the #eu coming and messing in european #politics, europe can take some solace that the move tends to backfire

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                                  @benroyce @martinlentink @DavidNielsen @randahl
                                  Must be his God’s will 🤭

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @martinlentink @DavidNielsen @randahl

                                    you're talking about this:

                                    " #Orban’s Chances of Winning #Hungary Election Drop After JD #Vance Rally"

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                                    Orban's chances of winning Hungary election drop after JD Vance rally

                                    Orban is one of President Donald Trump's key European political allies.

                                    favicon

                                    Newsweek (www.newsweek.com)

                                    so it's the same as #trump saying stupid shit about #canada, helping #poilievre lose to #carney

                                    so while #europe is right to be bothered by populist right wing assholes from outside the #eu coming and messing in european #politics, europe can take some solace that the move tends to backfire

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                                    @benroyce @martinlentink @DavidNielsen @randahl the Vance effect, basically the Streisand effect in politics.

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @martinlentink @DavidNielsen @randahl

                                      you're talking about this:

                                      " #Orban’s Chances of Winning #Hungary Election Drop After JD #Vance Rally"

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      Orban's chances of winning Hungary election drop after JD Vance rally

                                      Orban is one of President Donald Trump's key European political allies.

                                      favicon

                                      Newsweek (www.newsweek.com)

                                      so it's the same as #trump saying stupid shit about #canada, helping #poilievre lose to #carney

                                      so while #europe is right to be bothered by populist right wing assholes from outside the #eu coming and messing in european #politics, europe can take some solace that the move tends to backfire

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                                      @benroyce @martinlentink @DavidNielsen @randahl first past the post and all that. Fingers crossed.

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