Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.
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@alice 100% Corporations are not people. They do not have rights. They should be politically neutral. We shouldn't have to practice social activism based upon where we buy plywood.
Honestly corporations shouldn't exist at all.
@Darkasvim @alice @mralancooper maybe they should exist, but be dissolved when their short term goal is achieved.
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"Good" corporations?
With a cop, I guess if they're nice and seem somewhat anti-authoritarian, I understand why one would make that faulty assumption.
But how in the world could one ever mistake a corporation for "good"?
@kallisti @alice There are definitely corporations that are "best of a bad lot," like Costco (pays employees well and gives decent healthcare) among big box stores and the various cosmetics companies that practice ethical sourcing and don't do animal testing. You know, the ones that are actually doing the bare minimum that every corporation should if they're allowed to exist at all.
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@alice@lgbtqia.space i feel like the so called "linux crowd" has fallen victim to that towards Valve, the fanatism is so strange its almost religious.
@sarahquartz@lamp.leemoon.network You aren't the only one and I'm glad I am not alone. They're so parasocial with Gabe is so ridiculous, he doesn't even know them
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Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.
Brand loyalty is a parasocial relationship.
@alice@lgbtqia.space Fuck Valve.
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@nuwagaba2 It's like that here too, but corporations have many of the same rights as individuals as far as being able to make political donations and using their vast amounts of money to influence our elected officials.
@Darkasvim
Cool. A new system is still needed as the old one has failed. Can I share with you about my project? -
Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.
Brand loyalty is a parasocial relationship.
that's because corps value ethics and morality only in the context of profit.
this is by design.
(nice how the same acronym works for both of them too isn't it? Dovetails nicely cause, yk, one enables and protects the other, and all...)
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Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.
Brand loyalty is a parasocial relationship.
@alice loyalty is for beings with souls, not fucking businesses
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Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.
Brand loyalty is a parasocial relationship.
We call their fans/enablers corpo's for plural and corpo for singular, right?
I get that it can be hard, due to nostalgia and what not to step out of those parasocial relationships. Yet you should
Because they didn't get there by playing fair all the way, and all the time. None have, none will.
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@Darkasvim @alice @mralancooper maybe they should exist, but be dissolved when their short term goal is achieved.
@MikeStok @Darkasvim @alice @mralancooper sorry our short term goal is infinite growth at all costs... /s
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Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.
Brand loyalty is a parasocial relationship.
I doubt some coporations too.
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@MikeStok @Darkasvim @alice @mralancooper sorry our short term goal is infinite growth at all costs... /s
@MeaningfulBits @MikeStok @alice @mralancooper Line must go up!
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@MeaningfulBits @MikeStok @alice @mralancooper Line must go up!
@Darkasvim @MeaningfulBits @alice @mralancooper wait, aren’t you holding the graph upside down?
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Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.
Brand loyalty is a parasocial relationship.
@alice Sadly "no ethical consumption..."
Sure none of them are "good", but boy howdy are there layers of bad
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@alice Sadly "no ethical consumption..."
Sure none of them are "good", but boy howdy are there layers of bad
I always think of The Good Place when having this conversation with people...
There's actually nothing truly ethical when we live in a society like ours.
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Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.
Brand loyalty is a parasocial relationship.
@alice
Publicly owned corporations are evil by default.iirc there was a study where someone did a psychological study of corporations and concluded that all publicly owned ones are sociopaths/psychopaths.
Privately owned ones depend on the owner.
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We call their fans/enablers corpo's for plural and corpo for singular, right?
I get that it can be hard, due to nostalgia and what not to step out of those parasocial relationships. Yet you should
Because they didn't get there by playing fair all the way, and all the time. None have, none will.
@Aprazeth @alice honestly, brand loyalty feels weird though... I don't get what's hard about using corporations and their products as yools, either suited or unsuited to your current needs
(including the need to do minimum harm) corporations are machines created to make money, and havingparasocial relationships with them is odd
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Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.
Brand loyalty is a parasocial relationship.
@alice what I have learned that commercially driven entities no matter what are initial settings will lean towards greed, unless explicitly said otherwise.
Thus there can be no loyalty to something that is not a person and will change accordingly by the rules of greed and entity itself.
Greed simply generates vacuum of responsibility and empathy within organisation, and justifies and amplifies worst instincts of people of sociopathic nature.
Only exception is self organised workforce. -
Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.
Brand loyalty is a parasocial relationship.
@alice I'm only brand loyal when brand offers me service I like. The moment they don't I'll switch to something else or at least consider alternatives.
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@Aprazeth @alice honestly, brand loyalty feels weird though... I don't get what's hard about using corporations and their products as yools, either suited or unsuited to your current needs
(including the need to do minimum harm) corporations are machines created to make money, and havingparasocial relationships with them is odd
@OctaviaConAmore
For most people is not the corporation they develop that with - it is with their products. Especially nostalgia.The brand and type of cookies wr got when visiting our friends/family when we were a kid. The instant noodles that were the only thing people could afford during tough times, and so on.
That all said: if the only thing people can afford is corporation owned, and they need it for survival: do not feel pressured or shamed to change until safe to do so
