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  3. Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.

Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.

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  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

    Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.

    Brand loyalty is a parasocial relationship.

    cr0w@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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    @alice All Corporations Are Bullshit

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    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

      Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.

      Brand loyalty is a parasocial relationship.

      kallisti@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
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      @alice

      "Good" corporations?

      With a cop, I guess if they're nice and seem somewhat anti-authoritarian, I understand why one would make that faulty assumption.

      But how in the world could one ever mistake a corporation for "good"?

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      • nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN nuwagaba2@mastodon.social

        @Darkasvim
        That's right. Corporations. Might pay less taxes but the employees within them are the ones who carry the heaviest tax burden . That's how it works in my own country. How will inequality be reduced if the ones with the biggest amounts of money pay less in taxes than those with small amounts?

        darkasvim@fosstodon.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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        @nuwagaba2 It's like that here too, but corporations have many of the same rights as individuals as far as being able to make political donations and using their vast amounts of money to influence our elected officials.

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        • darkasvim@fosstodon.orgD darkasvim@fosstodon.org

          @alice 100% Corporations are not people. They do not have rights. They should be politically neutral. We shouldn't have to practice social activism based upon where we buy plywood.

          Honestly corporations shouldn't exist at all.

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          @Darkasvim @alice @mralancooper maybe they should exist, but be dissolved when their short term goal is achieved.

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          • kallisti@infosec.exchangeK kallisti@infosec.exchange

            @alice

            "Good" corporations?

            With a cop, I guess if they're nice and seem somewhat anti-authoritarian, I understand why one would make that faulty assumption.

            But how in the world could one ever mistake a corporation for "good"?

            linuxandyarn@hachyderm.ioL This user is from outside of this forum
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            @kallisti @alice There are definitely corporations that are "best of a bad lot," like Costco (pays employees well and gives decent healthcare) among big box stores and the various cosmetics companies that practice ethical sourcing and don't do animal testing. You know, the ones that are actually doing the bare minimum that every corporation should if they're allowed to exist at all.

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            • sarahquartz@lamp.leemoon.networkS sarahquartz@lamp.leemoon.network

              @alice@lgbtqia.space i feel like the so called "linux crowd" has fallen victim to that towards Valve, the fanatism is so strange its almost religious.

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              @sarahquartz@lamp.leemoon.network You aren't the only one and I'm glad I am not alone. They're so parasocial with Gabe is so ridiculous, he doesn't even know them 💀

              @alice@lgbtqia.space

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              • xinit@mastodon.coffeeX xinit@mastodon.coffee

                @alice
                Unilever really GETS me, though.

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                @xinit @alice

                Blue Bunny for me because there's nothing more patriotic than constant danger of hospital-worthy gastric distress!! 🇺🇸

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                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                  Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.

                  Brand loyalty is a parasocial relationship.

                  flesh@transfem.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @alice@lgbtqia.space Fuck Valve.

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                  • darkasvim@fosstodon.orgD darkasvim@fosstodon.org

                    @nuwagaba2 It's like that here too, but corporations have many of the same rights as individuals as far as being able to make political donations and using their vast amounts of money to influence our elected officials.

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                    @Darkasvim
                    Cool. A new system is still needed as the old one has failed. Can I share with you about my project?

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                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                      Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.

                      Brand loyalty is a parasocial relationship.

                      kitkat_blue@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @alice

                      that's because corps value ethics and morality only in the context of profit.

                      this is by design.

                      (nice how the same acronym works for both of them too isn't it? Dovetails nicely cause, yk, one enables and protects the other, and all...)

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                      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                        Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.

                        Brand loyalty is a parasocial relationship.

                        sinvega@mas.toS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @alice loyalty is for beings with souls, not fucking businesses

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                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                          Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.

                          Brand loyalty is a parasocial relationship.

                          aprazeth@mstdn.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @alice

                          We call their fans/enablers corpo's for plural and corpo for singular, right?

                          I get that it can be hard, due to nostalgia and what not to step out of those parasocial relationships. Yet you should

                          Because they didn't get there by playing fair all the way, and all the time. None have, none will.

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                          • mikestok@mstdn.caM mikestok@mstdn.ca

                            @Darkasvim @alice @mralancooper maybe they should exist, but be dissolved when their short term goal is achieved.

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                            @MikeStok @Darkasvim @alice @mralancooper sorry our short term goal is infinite growth at all costs... /s

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                            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                              Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.

                              Brand loyalty is a parasocial relationship.

                              hnapel@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @alice

                              I doubt some coporations too.

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                              • meaningfulbits@mastodon.socialM meaningfulbits@mastodon.social

                                @MikeStok @Darkasvim @alice @mralancooper sorry our short term goal is infinite growth at all costs... /s

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                                @MeaningfulBits @MikeStok @alice @mralancooper Line must go up!

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                                • darkasvim@fosstodon.orgD darkasvim@fosstodon.org

                                  @MeaningfulBits @MikeStok @alice @mralancooper Line must go up!

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                                  @Darkasvim @MeaningfulBits @alice @mralancooper wait, aren’t you holding the graph upside down?

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                                  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                    Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.

                                    Brand loyalty is a parasocial relationship.

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                                    @alice Sadly "no ethical consumption..."

                                    Sure none of them are "good", but boy howdy are there layers of bad

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                                    • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                                      @alice Sadly "no ethical consumption..."

                                      Sure none of them are "good", but boy howdy are there layers of bad

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                                      @JessTheUnstill @alice

                                      I always think of The Good Place when having this conversation with people...

                                      There's actually nothing truly ethical when we live in a society like ours.

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                                      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                        Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.

                                        Brand loyalty is a parasocial relationship.

                                        kirtai@tech.lgbtK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @alice
                                        Publicly owned corporations are evil by default.

                                        iirc there was a study where someone did a psychological study of corporations and concluded that all publicly owned ones are sociopaths/psychopaths.

                                        Privately owned ones depend on the owner.

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                                        • aprazeth@mstdn.socialA aprazeth@mstdn.social

                                          @alice

                                          We call their fans/enablers corpo's for plural and corpo for singular, right?

                                          I get that it can be hard, due to nostalgia and what not to step out of those parasocial relationships. Yet you should

                                          Because they didn't get there by playing fair all the way, and all the time. None have, none will.

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                                          @Aprazeth @alice honestly, brand loyalty feels weird though... I don't get what's hard about using corporations and their products as yools, either suited or unsuited to your current needs (including the need to do minimum harm)

                                          corporations are machines created to make money, and havingparasocial relationships with them is odd

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