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OK, so let's say me and some friends started a tech company/consultancy that refused to use "AI", would this encourage you choose us over others?

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  • requiem@masto.hackers.townR requiem@masto.hackers.town

    OK, so let's say me and some friends started a tech company/consultancy that refused to use "AI", would this encourage you choose us over others?

    (boosts welcome)

    rhold@norden.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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    #19

    @requiem not surprised that there is a lot of "theoretical" sympathy. But do we - the people - have money and contacts to offer? I very much doubt it

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    • jlapoutre@mastodon.onlineJ jlapoutre@mastodon.online

      @requiem Didn't vote but I would really carefully consider if you want to use this as a selling point to your prospective clients. First, they will care for your services and products quality, as long as it is created at least somewhat ethically, Second, "AI" as such is right on its peak in the hype cycle now, the useful parts will soon become just another tool in your workplace.
      So I tend to vote "no", by lack of a "doesn't matter as long as I trust you"

      fluidlogic@oldbytes.spaceF This user is from outside of this forum
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      #20

      @jlapoutre @requiem it's as much a filter for the types of clients this putative agency wants to attract as it is a signal for clients.

      Speaking for myself, I don't want to work with clients who think LLMs are a solution to anything.

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      • requiem@masto.hackers.townR requiem@masto.hackers.town

        OK, so let's say me and some friends started a tech company/consultancy that refused to use "AI", would this encourage you choose us over others?

        (boosts welcome)

        frytg@beoriginal.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #21

        @requiem @downey to me the question is not IF but HOW you use it. AI will be like electricity, it’s about how efficient and knowledgeable/ careful you are about it

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        • frytg@beoriginal.socialF frytg@beoriginal.social

          @requiem @downey to me the question is not IF but HOW you use it. AI will be like electricity, it’s about how efficient and knowledgeable/ careful you are about it

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          @FRYTG @requiem

          🤣

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          • requiem@masto.hackers.townR requiem@masto.hackers.town

            OK, so let's say me and some friends started a tech company/consultancy that refused to use "AI", would this encourage you choose us over others?

            (boosts welcome)

            requiem@masto.hackers.townR This user is from outside of this forum
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            #23

            I would love to get 1000 responses here, hint hint...

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            • requiem@masto.hackers.townR requiem@masto.hackers.town

              OK, so let's say me and some friends started a tech company/consultancy that refused to use "AI", would this encourage you choose us over others?

              (boosts welcome)

              csara@vmst.ioC This user is from outside of this forum
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              @requiem Where do I apply? 😂

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              • requiem@masto.hackers.townR requiem@masto.hackers.town

                OK, so let's say me and some friends started a tech company/consultancy that refused to use "AI", would this encourage you choose us over others?

                (boosts welcome)

                sauc3@hachyderm.ioS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #25

                @requiem

                Not only would I want to hire you, I suspect that you'd be flooded by people who want to work for you as well.

                Interesting side note, the replies provided a bonanza of bozos to block.

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                • requiem@masto.hackers.townR requiem@masto.hackers.town

                  OK, so let's say me and some friends started a tech company/consultancy that refused to use "AI", would this encourage you choose us over others?

                  (boosts welcome)

                  missgayle@urbanists.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #26

                  @requiem

                  Absolutely.

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                  • requiem@masto.hackers.townR requiem@masto.hackers.town

                    OK, so let's say me and some friends started a tech company/consultancy that refused to use "AI", would this encourage you choose us over others?

                    (boosts welcome)

                    jackyan@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #27

                    @requiem No-brainer for me. (Voted yes.)

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                    • phf@mastodon.deP phf@mastodon.de

                      @14mission Oh I agree that the term "AI" is the worst term ever. But I feel like "they" ruined the term so I used it only in the "ruined" sense of gargantuan Markov text generator thingy. Things like pattern recognition using neural networks is what I grew up with and I still think it has purpose. Alas even a plain old neural network needs to never be in direct control of an insulin pump or the rudder on a plane. Never. @requiem

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                      @phf @14mission @requiem I don‘t get it. What have LLMs ruined? Traditional symbolic AI was in no way more AI than the currently trending AI flavor. Expert systems had/have their use. Classic NNs had/have their use. LLMs had/have their use. What exactly is the difference in your opinion (other than nobody pumped even a fraction of the money into expert systems than now into LLMs)

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                      • requiem@masto.hackers.townR requiem@masto.hackers.town

                        OK, so let's say me and some friends started a tech company/consultancy that refused to use "AI", would this encourage you choose us over others?

                        (boosts welcome)

                        catzilla@toot.catC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #29

                        @requiem You can market yourself as “boutique consulting for software craftsmanship”

                        I feel like there are people willing to pay a premium for the quality of that over the mediocrity of AI generated code

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                        • requiem@masto.hackers.townR requiem@masto.hackers.town

                          OK, so let's say me and some friends started a tech company/consultancy that refused to use "AI", would this encourage you choose us over others?

                          (boosts welcome)

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                          aqeeliz@floss.social
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                          #30

                          @requiem From my experience, most people that want something built don't care about these details. If the software works, they don't care. If someone can do the same job with same guarantees but half the price, people will choose them.

                          The responses on fediverse will be very biased for this poll. If you seriously want to start such a business, I'll highly recommend doing some research from non-tech / business oriented people.

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                          • requiem@masto.hackers.townR requiem@masto.hackers.town

                            OK, so let's say me and some friends started a tech company/consultancy that refused to use "AI", would this encourage you choose us over others?

                            (boosts welcome)

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                            xwood4000@spacey.space
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                            @requiem I'm not in any position to hire a tech consultancy, but especially for open source projects I would require it so that the project doesn't get IP contaminated

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                            • requiem@masto.hackers.townR requiem@masto.hackers.town

                              OK, so let's say me and some friends started a tech company/consultancy that refused to use "AI", would this encourage you choose us over others?

                              (boosts welcome)

                              energisch_@troet.cafeE This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #32

                              @requiem pretty obvious, isn't it? 💡 🧠 #NoAI

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                              • requiem@masto.hackers.townR requiem@masto.hackers.town

                                OK, so let's say me and some friends started a tech company/consultancy that refused to use "AI", would this encourage you choose us over others?

                                (boosts welcome)

                                mage_of_chaos@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                wrote last edited by
                                #33

                                @requiem

                                Yeah, that's kind of why I decided to stop making my own AI/bots.

                                Thatband the old roomates and chat rooms stealing my accounts to make scammer ones!

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                                • requiem@masto.hackers.townR requiem@masto.hackers.town

                                  OK, so let's say me and some friends started a tech company/consultancy that refused to use "AI", would this encourage you choose us over others?

                                  (boosts welcome)

                                  jackeric@beige.partyJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #34

                                  @requiem yes and can I come work for you

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                                  • stevethompson@mastodon.socialS stevethompson@mastodon.social

                                    @requiem

                                    The best place to start to catch the eye of investors is to use proper English. So, even though it is casual here in Mastodon and not formal, "me and some friends started a tech company" does not work for me. In other words, I got a red flag before even getting to the AI variable. With that said, I am not in your poll tally. Cheers.

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                                    #35

                                    @requiem @SteveThompson it's a thought experiment not an actual pitch for funding steve

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                                    • requiem@masto.hackers.townR requiem@masto.hackers.town

                                      I would love to get 1000 responses here, hint hint...

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                                      #36

                                      woohoo, 1000!

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                                      • linux_in_a_bit@infosec.exchangeL linux_in_a_bit@infosec.exchange

                                        @requiem
                                        I would choose you, but I'm not a company executive 😉
                                        Maybe market it with some "no buzzwords; no bs" tagline or something.

                                        fig@theforkiverse.comF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #37

                                        @Linux_in_a_Bit @requiem nbjs - no bullshit just software. (Apologies to Erik Aanderaa)

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                                        • requiem@masto.hackers.townR requiem@masto.hackers.town

                                          OK, so let's say me and some friends started a tech company/consultancy that refused to use "AI", would this encourage you choose us over others?

                                          (boosts welcome)

                                          requiem@masto.hackers.townR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          requiem@masto.hackers.town
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #38

                                          Thank-you to everyone who participated, I never thought so many people would respond and the results are a lot more lopsided than I expected.

                                          I'm going to be writing a blog post about this soon with more details about what's next.

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