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  3. OK, so let's say me and some friends started a tech company/consultancy that refused to use "AI", would this encourage you choose us over others?

OK, so let's say me and some friends started a tech company/consultancy that refused to use "AI", would this encourage you choose us over others?

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  • phf@mastodon.deP phf@mastodon.de

    @14mission Oh I agree that the term "AI" is the worst term ever. But I feel like "they" ruined the term so I used it only in the "ruined" sense of gargantuan Markov text generator thingy. Things like pattern recognition using neural networks is what I grew up with and I still think it has purpose. Alas even a plain old neural network needs to never be in direct control of an insulin pump or the rudder on a plane. Never. @requiem

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    @phf @14mission @requiem I don‘t get it. What have LLMs ruined? Traditional symbolic AI was in no way more AI than the currently trending AI flavor. Expert systems had/have their use. Classic NNs had/have their use. LLMs had/have their use. What exactly is the difference in your opinion (other than nobody pumped even a fraction of the money into expert systems than now into LLMs)

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    • requiem@masto.hackers.townR requiem@masto.hackers.town

      OK, so let's say me and some friends started a tech company/consultancy that refused to use "AI", would this encourage you choose us over others?

      (boosts welcome)

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      #29

      @requiem You can market yourself as “boutique consulting for software craftsmanship”

      I feel like there are people willing to pay a premium for the quality of that over the mediocrity of AI generated code

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      • requiem@masto.hackers.townR requiem@masto.hackers.town

        OK, so let's say me and some friends started a tech company/consultancy that refused to use "AI", would this encourage you choose us over others?

        (boosts welcome)

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        aqeeliz@floss.social
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        @requiem From my experience, most people that want something built don't care about these details. If the software works, they don't care. If someone can do the same job with same guarantees but half the price, people will choose them.

        The responses on fediverse will be very biased for this poll. If you seriously want to start such a business, I'll highly recommend doing some research from non-tech / business oriented people.

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        • requiem@masto.hackers.townR requiem@masto.hackers.town

          OK, so let's say me and some friends started a tech company/consultancy that refused to use "AI", would this encourage you choose us over others?

          (boosts welcome)

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          xwood4000@spacey.space
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          @requiem I'm not in any position to hire a tech consultancy, but especially for open source projects I would require it so that the project doesn't get IP contaminated

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          • requiem@masto.hackers.townR requiem@masto.hackers.town

            OK, so let's say me and some friends started a tech company/consultancy that refused to use "AI", would this encourage you choose us over others?

            (boosts welcome)

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            #32

            @requiem pretty obvious, isn't it? 💡 🧠 #NoAI

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            • requiem@masto.hackers.townR requiem@masto.hackers.town

              OK, so let's say me and some friends started a tech company/consultancy that refused to use "AI", would this encourage you choose us over others?

              (boosts welcome)

              mage_of_chaos@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #33

              @requiem

              Yeah, that's kind of why I decided to stop making my own AI/bots.

              Thatband the old roomates and chat rooms stealing my accounts to make scammer ones!

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              • requiem@masto.hackers.townR requiem@masto.hackers.town

                OK, so let's say me and some friends started a tech company/consultancy that refused to use "AI", would this encourage you choose us over others?

                (boosts welcome)

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                #34

                @requiem yes and can I come work for you

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                • stevethompson@mastodon.socialS stevethompson@mastodon.social

                  @requiem

                  The best place to start to catch the eye of investors is to use proper English. So, even though it is casual here in Mastodon and not formal, "me and some friends started a tech company" does not work for me. In other words, I got a red flag before even getting to the AI variable. With that said, I am not in your poll tally. Cheers.

                  jackeric@beige.partyJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #35

                  @requiem @SteveThompson it's a thought experiment not an actual pitch for funding steve

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                  • requiem@masto.hackers.townR requiem@masto.hackers.town

                    I would love to get 1000 responses here, hint hint...

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                    #36

                    woohoo, 1000!

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                    • linux_in_a_bit@infosec.exchangeL linux_in_a_bit@infosec.exchange

                      @requiem
                      I would choose you, but I'm not a company executive 😉
                      Maybe market it with some "no buzzwords; no bs" tagline or something.

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                      @Linux_in_a_Bit @requiem nbjs - no bullshit just software. (Apologies to Erik Aanderaa)

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                      • requiem@masto.hackers.townR requiem@masto.hackers.town

                        OK, so let's say me and some friends started a tech company/consultancy that refused to use "AI", would this encourage you choose us over others?

                        (boosts welcome)

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                        #38

                        Thank-you to everyone who participated, I never thought so many people would respond and the results are a lot more lopsided than I expected.

                        I'm going to be writing a blog post about this soon with more details about what's next.

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                        • requiem@masto.hackers.townR requiem@masto.hackers.town

                          Thank-you to everyone who participated, I never thought so many people would respond and the results are a lot more lopsided than I expected.

                          I'm going to be writing a blog post about this soon with more details about what's next.

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                          #39

                          @requiem I might suggest the results here are selection bias 🙂

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                          • requiem@masto.hackers.townR requiem@masto.hackers.town

                            Thank-you to everyone who participated, I never thought so many people would respond and the results are a lot more lopsided than I expected.

                            I'm going to be writing a blog post about this soon with more details about what's next.

                            timchaffee@ioc.exchangeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #40

                            @requiem if you are thinking of a business plan to implement this I would wonder how many of the voters are in a position to approve a vendor and the $$$?

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